I like Joe Biden, but he kind of makes me think of the guy...

who always gets there just after the big fight and goes about bragging how he would have done so much damage if he had only been there when it happened.

I do like Biden. And Kucinich (my first choice). And Edwards. And, etc... Whenever I look at the 'pub candidates, I really, REALLY realize how much I like all of ours. I was so pro-Dean last time around, and I fought for him on DU, but I ended up putting my all behind Kerry when he got the nomination, even though he was my last choice. I'll take any of the Democratic candidates as President this time around. Even the worst of our candidates are 100 times better than the best the 'pubs have to offer.

parallel course, the last time around. This time I don't have the passion for anyone like I wanted Dean to win..but I did jump right in for Kerry..well, maybe it took me a week or two. :)

I'm just going to actually cross that bridge when I get there..cause I can't even imagine what's going to happen.

ever run with a childhood friend who was never there when the big fight took place? But always seemed to show up just afterwards and would say stuff like, "Man, wish I had been here when it started, because If I had of been, I really would have kicked that Georgie's ass up one side and down the other."

Sort of a Mr. After The Fact sort of guy. But I do like him because he has the oratory skills and can bring on a good case of "I told you so," but again, after the fact.

Biden's Iraq strategy already passed the Senate. His Violence Against Women's Act. The Biden Crime Bill. The BOsnia intervention was his idea.

I have no idea what you are talking about, still. Unless you think Biden should have moved to impeach already. Of course, the house needs to begin that process.

Or is this just your 'feeling'?

just as he is right now. The lone voice calling for an independent investigation into the destruction of the CIA tapes.

He is the only candidate that got 75 Senators to go along with his plan for Iraq.

He was the one that took down Milosovec.

He was the one that got legislation passed for LI-ion batteries for cars.

He was the first candidate to call for a timeline for withdrawal from Iraq.

I could go on and on.

But the Biden I support has been the first one to the fight.

Those policies are going to end up hurting lots of folks...

distrust his instincts on domestic affairs in light of his bankruptcy views and in light of some of the judges he's voted for on the judiciary committee.

of his progressive Democratic colleagues:

Biden voted to confirm Bush appointee and notorious anti-choice activist Judge Diane Sykes to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals when Edwards and Hillary (and 25 other Democrats) had the sense to vote against this confirmation.

Biden voted to confirm Bush appointee and notorious anti-consumer, anti-labor activist Deborah Judge Cook to the 6rd Circuit Court of Appeals when Edwards, Hillary and Dodd (and 22 other Democrats) had the sense to vote against this confirmation.

Biden voted to confirm Bush appointee and notorious anti-environment activist Judge Brooks Smith to the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeal when Hillary and Dodd (and 33 other Senators) had the sense to vote against this confirmation.

I know I don't.

I am so sick of ther trite, petty shit people post about Joe Biden. I really am.

Diane Sykes;
Senate Votes; 70-27.

Deborah Cook;
Senate votes; 66-25


Brooks Smith;
Senate votes; 64-35

So, even if JOE wouldn't have voted to confirm, they would all have been confirmed anyway. Get over it.

We have a representative type of government. This means we send someone to DC that is supposed to represent us. Joe Biden is from Delaware, which happens to be the credit card capital of the world. Those credit card companies bring a lot of jobs to Delaware, which supports his constituents. How hard is it for you to realize that those people in Delaware would want him to vote for the credit card companies interests. He is working for the people of Delaware, not you or me. He does what they want him to do, that is his job.

This is why it is difficult for a representative to be elected, because most people don't realize that these reps don't vote THEIR conscience, they vote the way their constituents want them to vote. If they don't do the job that they were sent to do (which is to represent the people who sent them to DC), they will not get voted back in.

Just like Joe Lieberman does his job for his constituents, and Obama and Clinton do for their constituents. Now, I do have a problem with Lieberman calling himself a dem, but not with the job he is doing.

A governor, on the other hand, can run his state the way he wants, as he has been put in a leadership position, not a representative position.

zalinda

LOL......WTF?!? Look, the BK bill isn't the problem. It's the SIDE EFFECT of a bad economy, BOGUS HEALTH INSURANCE, and a shitty pay scale. Address those first, and there won't be a need for BK's.

By the way, BK's are on the RISE, if what you say is true, they'd be going DOWN, not up.

Just another thing for people to whine about, which will probably NEVER have an affect on them, at all. But it really makes your point moot, by not knowing the facts.


P fucking S. Credit cards are OPTIONAL. Optional.

you that way, but in actuality, he's been there BEFORE the 'fight' happened.

He Co-AUTHORED the Biden-Boxer-Brownback Amendment for a PLAN to exit Iraq -- there are STILL no other PLANS that have been set offered.
He has called for an Independent Counsel to look into the CIA/Tapes issue - Everybody else is content to let Mukasey handle it and keep it in-house.
He WARNED of Pakistan days before the crises occurred there.
HE TOLD US THE TRUTH about Iran NOT being close to nuclear-ready, WEEKS before the NIE was released.

As opposed to running up and joining in after the fight is over, he instead WARNS us there is GOING to be a fight and we need to pay attention, which is better, in my book, than being involved in the fight itself - PREVENTING it.

He is without fear of where it will lead because he is without blame.

The previous posts explain how Joe has been on the leading edge of many issues throughout his 35 years in the Senate. Perhaps you are thinking more along the lines of "Geeze, where has he been?" Well, he's here now and he is acting more and more like a President than he is a candidate.

Just my take...

-P

He doesn't get much exposure.

...doesn't blow his own horn enough. I don't know ~ just a thought.

I'd like to hear your impressions of the other candidates? I've been in my share of street fights and from what I've learned about the candidates so far, Biden would be the one I'd want next to me. The others are fakes and flappers. Live through what biden has lived through and you'd be a tough mother fucker too. Again, which candidate was it that told Milosevic to his face in his own country that he was a god damn war criminal. I realize your post was mostly in jest but my candidate is being jerked by the MSM right now so pardon my angst. Best, n4b

PWN3D - By Joe Biden

and it wasn't a slam dunk either.

and he's the grown-up on-duty.

Biden has showed more action than any of the other candidates. An analogy doesn't work unless it mirrors that which is being analogized. Your analogy bears no resemblance to Joe Biden.

seem to mostly come after the fact?

I don't want people to get me wrong about Biden - some of his after the fact appearances on the talking head shows have been great, but to be honest, I can't recall him making any big speeches BEFORE the Iraq War or about the fog of 9/11.

Or about the many terrible things done by the Bushies until after he entered the 2008 race.

Can't help it.

(Oh, and to be fair, heck, the observation I get with HRC is that she gets to the battle when the last person is just getting ready to leave).

on the senate floor BEFORE he decided to run.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v1op8vwF5UA

More importantly, I trust him.

gotta respect that.