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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 12:55 AM
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NEW YORK, Dec. 17, 2003
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 12:55 AM by gateley
NEW YORK, Dec. 17, 2003

CHOICE FOR DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE
(Democratic primary voters)

Now
Howard Dean
23%
Wesley Clark
10%
Joe Lieberman
10%
Richard Gephardt
6%
Al Sharpton
5%
John Kerry
4%
John Edwards
2%
Carol Moseley-Braun
1%
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:35 AM
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1. Hmmm,
what are you trying to tell us Gateley?

Isn't it funny how the pundits conveniently forget past polls?

Man, it had to suck to be Howard Dean back then.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 01:49 AM
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2. This was a BIG thing --- it was obvious that they turned the tables upside down ---
and when Howard Dean continued on --- they organized a major attack on a flimsy issue ---

and the public lost again ---

And, the right-wing will have to continue winning by hook or by crook --- by criminal activity --
by violence --- and by stealing elections --- because they can't get elected!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:24 AM
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7. Actually, the corpmedia KNEW the numbers were changing since November but chose
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 11:25 AM by blm
to OVER-report Dean's numbers while under-reporting Kerry's numbers or the strength of his ground organization in Iowa.

In fact, the corpmedia was telling the public that Kerry's campaign ws dead for months to dry up his national donations. Kerry had to fund the last month of his campaign in Iowa and NH out of pocket.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 03:23 PM
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11. Interesting
May as well assume the numbers are being manipulated now as well.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 02:00 AM
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3. This happens so much lately that I'm beginning to think voters toy
with the pollsters. Also, seems to me that the MOE has increased 50% and sometimes almost 100% over what it use to be. What is THAT telling us?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 02:03 AM
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4. GREAT POINT.
2 thumbs up. Way up.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:44 AM
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5. OR...
One could see these 2003 numbers as a warning sign NOT to choose a loser again.

(just playing devil's advocate)
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:30 AM
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8. Or, be sure to choose one who will stand up to them...
Just saying....
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:21 AM
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6. k
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:49 AM
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9. The Dean and Clark people were the best organized in NY
Everyone else was a joke. But that didn't matter in the end. Kerry got 44% of the vote IIRC on March 5, 2004.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 03:14 PM
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10. Those in the lead this time are thinking "that couldn't happen again" and those
of us NOT in the lead are hoping it will!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 04:44 PM
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12. Just look at that! Kerry at 4%; Edwards at 2%
What a great reminder that anything can happen.

Gives this Bidenite lots of hope :)
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 04:47 PM
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13. But Kerry and Edwards were doing much better in Iowa polls than in this poll.
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