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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 AM
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New Strategic Vision Poll: Obama 33%, Clinton 25%, Edwards 24%
Obama, Huckabee Lead in Iowa


December 12, 2007

Political Wire got an advance look at a new Strategic Vision poll in Iowa that shows Sen. Barack Obama leading the Democratic pack with 33%, followed by Sen. Hillary Clinton with 25%, and John Edwards with 24%.

Among Republicans, Mike Huckabee leads with 30%, followed by Mitt Romney with 25%, Fred Thompson with 13%, and Rudy Giuliani with 10%.

The full survey results will be released tomorrow.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/12/12/obama_huckabee_lead_in_iowa.html
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:11 AM
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1. But Tellurian just told me that Hillary is leading.
What gives?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:44 AM
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12. Poor Tell... she's feeling the Obama heat.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:48 AM
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16. Yes, Obama is a great candidate..
Too bad he's going to lose!

I like Heat...:hi: it's the "cold", I don't like!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:46 AM
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14. This IS tomorrow from that article...wheres the Poll?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:11 AM
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2. Excuse me while I
SCREAMMMMMMMMMM with delight.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:12 AM
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3. State of the race...
Obama is definitely the frontrunner...though not by much...

His to lose now...
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:16 AM
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4. It was hers to lose and she seems to be doing that now...
At least, trends indicate such in IA, NH, and SC.

Can she still win the nomination, even if she loses those three? Last time I looked, she has fairly impressive leads in many of the Feb. 5 states.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:21 AM
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6. Well I think it is the natural tightening of the polls that always occurs...
We will see how far ahead it gets Obama...while he is ahead in some polls in all three states he is behind in some in all three states as well...

However if Obama is now perceived as the frontrunner...which I think he is...we will see how the increased scrutiny will play out...I suspect we will see Edwards turning his fire on him now as well...

And Obama is not currently polling well in Feb 5th primary states...so he will have to win fairly convincingly in at least 2 of the 3 IA, SC, and NH

It is going to be interesting...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:45 AM
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13. No, both Hillary and Obama are the frontrunners.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:18 AM
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5. How Convenient
How convenient that a Republican polling firm has Romney (the chosen candidate of the GOP establishment) making a race of it in Iowa when recent non partisan polls show him floundering:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republican_caucus-207.html


I'll take all their "findings" with a large grain of salt
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:24 AM
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7. It looks good to me.
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 10:25 AM by Dawgs
I guess it's easier to pick and choose the polls you like. It seems to be a trend with many of the Hillary supporters.

Here are the averages for all polls - not including this new one.

Iowa - Obama +1.0
Clinton - 27.4
Obama - 28.4
Edwards - 21.4
Richardson - 7.2
Biden - 4.8

New Hampshire - Clinton +5.2
Clinton - 32.2
Obama - 27.0
Edwards - 15.6
Richardson - 7.6
Biden - 3.0

South Carolina - Clinton +0.2
Clinton - 30.80
Obama - 30.60
Edwards - 14.2
Biden - 7.33
Richardson - 1.67
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 AM
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8. Game Set Match
I made three assertions... Prove any of my assertions aren't true...You can't...

Is or is not Strategic Vision a Republican polling firm?

Is or is not Mitt Romney the chosen candidate of the Republican establishment?

Does or not Strategic Vision show a much , much closer race between Romney and Huckabee in Iowa than recently published polls?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:31 AM
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9. And you cant prove that these polls are worthless
Championship.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:33 AM
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10. Nor Did I Suggest They Were
But they deserve more scrutiny than "non partisan" polls


SCOREBOARD
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:43 AM
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11. It doesn't matter what you think about any of these polls.
Almost all of them show a trend, Hillary down and Obama up.

You consistently only pick the polls that show Hillary with a big lead, and ignore(or disregard) the ones that you don't like.

My initial response was referencing all of your posts, not just the last one.

And what the hell does 'GAME SET MATCH' mean? Are we in grade school again?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:47 AM
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15. I reference all the polls
I merely made three assertions, all factual...Rather than attack my factual assertions you attack me as you are doing (again)...


It is what it is, dawgs...
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:52 AM
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17. Yeah, I know.
You accept a Rasmussen poll when it shows Hillary leading even though he is a Republican, but you disregard the SV poll because you don't like the results.

I understand completely.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:53 AM
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18. Hehehehehe...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:56 AM
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19. Au Contraire
If you do an autosearch you will see I refer to Rasmussen as Republimussen at times...That being said if you link strategic vision's site you will learn most, if not all their clients are Republicans, ergo:


http://www.strategicvision.biz/political/clients.html

Back to Rasmussen or Republimussen...There is much evidence that he has a Republican bias but not so great that Real Clear Politics has to put an (R) next to his company's name, ergo:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html
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