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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:40 PM
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Al Gore urged delegates to reach agreement even without US backing
Gore: US Blocking Climate Talks Progress
By CHRIS BRUMMITT
updated 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22065875/

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"My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here in Bali," said Gore, who flew to Bali from Oslo, Norway, where he received the Nobel Peace Prize for helping alert the world to the danger of climate change.

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Kristen Hellmer, a member of the American delegation in Bali, said of Gore's remarks: "The U.S. is being open and working very constructively with the other countries that are here. We are rolling our sleeves up and really working to come up with a global post-2012 framework."

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The United States, Japan and several other governments are refusing to accept language in a draft document suggesting that industrialized nations consider cutting emissions by 25 percent to 40 percent by 2020, saying specific targets would limit the scope of future talks.

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Perino said that while there were some voices calling for a boycott of the Washington meeting, it did not appear to be the official position of the EU. She said such comments were "not constructive to a conversation where everybody wants to get together for this meeting to talk about a framework for moving forward."

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Gore urged delegates to reach agreement even without the backing of the United States, saying President Bush's successor, who will take office in January 2009, would likely be more supportive of binding cuts.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:48 PM
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:16 PM
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2. God Bless Us All n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:45 PM
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5. Kicking. Need more recs... (n/t)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:29 PM
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3. If the E.U. boycotts the Bush led U.S. sponsored clmate talks,
does that mean, because it's Bush's party, he can cry if he wants to?

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3996097

European nations threatened Thursday to boycott U.S.-sponsored climate talks next month unless the Bush administration compromises and agrees to a "road map" for reducing greenhouse gases blamed for global warming.

With the U.N. climate conference in its final hours, Nobel laureate Al Gore said the United States was "principally responsible" for blocking progress here toward an agreement on launching negotiations to replace the Kyoto Protocol when it expires in 2012.

But the former U.S. vice president urged delegations to reach the required unanimous agreement before the conference's end on Friday, even if it meant putting aside goals for emissions cuts.

"You can do one of two things here," Gore said. "You can feel anger and frustration and direct it at the United States of America, or you can make a second choice. You can decide to move forward and do all of the difficult work that needs to be done."

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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:50 PM
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4. Maybe he won't get his way this time...
but don't hold your breath.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22065875

All sides agree it is impossible to deal with climate change unless the United States is involved. It is the world's leading emitter of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases and the only major industrial country that did not ratify the Kyoto Protocol.

President Bush views his own climate talks as the main vehicle for determining action by the U.S. _ and, he hopes, by others. The Jan. 30-31 session in Honolulu is a continuation of September talks at the White House called the Major Economies Meeting on Energy Security and Climate Change.

The U.S. has invited 16 major economies, including European countries, Japan, China and India, to discuss a program of what are expected to be nationally determined, voluntary cutbacks in greenhouse gas emissions.

But the EU warned it would stay away unless Washington drops its opposition to mandatory cuts.

"No result in Bali means no Major Economies Meeting," said Sigmar Gabriel, the top EU environment official. "This is the clear position of the EU. I do not know what we should talk about if there is no target."

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