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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:08 AM
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Poll question: If there were only two choices: Edwards or Obama
Just for the sake of argument, let's say the Clinton campaign had completely self-destructed and for some reason you were not allowed to vote for Biden, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich, Gravel or anyone else. If that means you just don't vote, then of course don't bother to take this poll.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:10 AM
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1. C'mon, we all know Edwards is gonna win this Poll hands down
Edwards is the most popular person on DU along with DK. Obama is probably the fourth most popular candidate.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:10 AM
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2. Edwards would be the man for me in that case...
He has the POV, the gravitas, the experience, the background...

I like him a lot.

Interesting poll...

What made you choose these two?

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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:12 AM
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Because I think that's what it's actually going to come down to.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 12:17 AM by FlyingSquirrel
I think the Clinton campaign is on a long downward spiral regardless of money (somewhat like Dean in '04) and the rest of the candidates don't have a serious chance so it will actually come down to Edwards vs Obama in the caucuses and primaries.

Edit: I personally would be satisfied with either candidate, but feel Edwards has a better chance of actually winning. There's also a good chance he would pick Obama for running mate (or vice versa).
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:16 AM
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5. I bet you are very......very wrong
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:11 AM
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3. Obviously America is more likely to vote for a white candidate
is there any question of that, seriously?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:12 AM
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4. Edwards.....our last two elected Dem presidents were Carter and Clinton...
Both are moderates. Edwards is a genuine southern progressive. He would be a fabulous president.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:17 AM
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6. And it will never happen
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:18 AM
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7. Who are you supporting? nt
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:30 AM
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9. You're ridgt. It's VERY unlikely that corporate America will let John Edwards be nominated
It must send chills down a lot of Republican spines.....

But to deny the POSSIBILITY of an Edwards nomination is to deny reality. Good luck with that.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:28 AM
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8. Obama.
Sure, he may have middle-name issues, he may be a little inexperienced (but then so is Edwards,) he may be an Axelrod puppet (or an Oprah puppet - Dr. Phil must feel a little lonely and insecure around now) and he may be the most talented devotee of content-free post-partisan glittering generalities since Tom Dewey in '48.

But at least he's not a phony!
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:30 AM
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10. Obama supporters.....?
Where did they go? There used to be a lot here.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:32 AM
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11. Edwards is the most popular person on DU
Maybe DK has more, but its a toss up. Obama is probably the fourth most popular person.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:34 AM
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12. That seals it then
I'm outta here for now.

I can only take so much.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:35 AM
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14. ?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:38 AM
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15. I can't stand Edwards
I really can't.

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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:13 AM
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21. Care to tell us why you dislike him so?
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:05 AM
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24. I hear crickets, LOL
Ever notice how the few people who hate Edwards never can pinpoint the reason why?

I guess maybe they're jealous of the haircut. :rofl:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:20 AM
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25. Do you really want to know... really?
Why I hate this total phony? This ambulance chaser? This barely any experience, couldn't get reelected in his own fucking state, changed every single damn position he ever held overnight to recreate himself as a "populist" bullshit artist?

This moron would be destroyed in a GE, I've never seen any politician change so many stances in the course of a few years.

Slimy car salesman, that is what I think of Edwards.

You asked.

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:26 AM
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26. Maybe it will be Edwards vs. Romney.
Two slicksters who will say whatever their constituents want to hear, but change positions more often than they change their underwear.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:55 AM
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35. So, who is the REAL populist that represents our views we should elect instead? HUH?
A lot of politicians have changed their views over time. Including the others that are running against Edwards. To say they are more "trustworthy" than Edwards is not dealing with reality.

I'd rather choose a candidate that changes TOWARDS what I want, rather than one that either changes to one I don't want or sticks with views I don't want!

Now, maybe he backs off of his views, but then America will have voted for what he did run on, and we then WILL have a mandate that we were firmly voting for, instead of all of us valuing "winning an election" over voting for what viewpoints we want to see acted on. That mandate will be larger than he himself.

Nader in another thread says that he likes what Edwards is saying and says he's the most progressive on Chris Matthews. He appears to be saying that as long as Edwards runs and stays on point with the views he's running on, that Nader won't run against him implicitly. That's the kind of election I want to see.

If you have a better option, please, PLEASE tell us. I don't think Al Gore is going to run now, much as I wanted him to run. Nor is Russ Feingold.

Dennis Kucinich is someone I would consider, but he isn't in striking distance of winning like Edwards is.
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:53 AM
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17. I guess I'm in the right place. n/t
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:42 AM
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16. "FIRED UP ! READY TO GO !!"
We're here!
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forsberg Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:34 AM
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13. Prob 85-90% of Hillary's support goes to Edwards, he's the most electable
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:55 AM
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18. But if Hillary tailspins
the corporate money moves to Obama.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:09 AM
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20. Corporations will give to Edwards if they think he's winning.
They give to whoever they think might win to cover their bets. The fact that Obama gets more big money doesn't mean he sold out. It means people think he has a shot at winning and they'll give no matter where he is on the issues.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:25 AM
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22. I doubt he would take it!
I believe John Edwards cares about his fellow man. He has suffered the loss of a son, cancer with his wife. He and his wife have worked hard from the bottom up and I believe he truly wants a better America for the working class. He won't be bought.
Integrity, Guts and Soul.....That is John Edwards.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:36 AM
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23. He takes it now.
He has raised a lot of money. It didn't all come from widows and orphans. It would be unfair to accuse Edwards of selling out just because he can raise some money and its unfair to say that about Obama as well.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:07 AM
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19. The one with the record to prove he's a consistent progressive.
Obama.
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Libface Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:06 AM
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31. It's going to be about healthcare
Maybe his strategy has something to do with getting right-leaning voters who are scared of socialized medicine? I dunno but I think that's one place where he stands out as looking less progressive.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:40 AM
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27. Easily John Edwards
But then I'll vote for John over all the others.
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:42 AM
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28. I'll vote in the Repub primary.
We can do that here.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:43 AM
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29. I'm surprised Obama gets so much support on DU.
Considering his Senate voting record so nearly matches Clinton's.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 08:57 AM
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30. frankly, many Obama supporters simply don't know what he really stands for
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:51 AM
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33. And his book certainly didn't answers of the who,
how, when or how he decided to make many such poor judgment's that will lose us the White House in 2008. One of his mistakes was deciding to write a book based on poor judgment. What did he think no one would want to know the details? Well, The R's certainly will in the general. Keep sticking your heads in the sand people. He opened the door with his book and further examination need to be done by the left before it's to late.

Any Dem but Obama. He will get eaten alive by the R's and that is inevitable come the general. His lack of judgment will do him in, not the color of his skin. This is MHO. and I have just as much right to it as you.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 10:01 AM
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34. As if John Edwards had such a great voting record in the US Senate ...
If this thread is about a poll comparing Edwards and Obama, how can you comment on Obama's voting record in the US Senate unless you are going to compare it with Edwards'?

I was trying to keep an open mind, but you just convinced me to vote for Obama (at least in this poll). B-)
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:34 AM
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32. Edwards...
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 09:35 AM by Tesha
Edwards.

1. Edwards actually has some relevant experience, and

2. He doesn't "God monger" with every damned speech he makes.

Tesha
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