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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:25 AM
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Iowa Newspaper Endorsement Reboots Clinton Campaign - Obama-mania suffers major blow
The Des Moines Register’s endorsement of Hillary Rodham Clinton could well be remembered as the moment when the New York senator began to lock down the Democratic presidential nomination. Expectations were running high that her main party rival, Barack Obama, would bag Iowa’s largest newspaper as the closing chapter for an emerging narrative that Clinton had lost her luster.

Instead, Obama-mania suffered a major blow. The Register’s pragmatic editorial backing Clinton minced no words about what the newspaper sees as the Illinois senator’s “relative inexperience.” Even if Obama wins the Iowa caucuses, this endorsement likely guarantees that Clnton will do well enough to maintain her lead in bigger states down the road.

But the Iowa newspaper's hard-hitting rationale for its endorsement might just persuade undecided voters to give Sen. Clinton the margin for victory in the state's Jan. 3 caucuses. The Register not only backed her candidacy. It's supporting editorial concisely ratified her campaign’s closing argument – that she is prepared for the presidency, and Obama is not.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:27 AM
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1. President Edwards, Bradley and Simon have their DM Register endorsements in plaques
That endorsement really worked out well for them...

:crazy:

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:29 AM
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2. which is why Obamanation wanted it so bad
:)
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:08 PM
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20. As an Obama supporter, I was hoping Biden would get it.
Don't judge an Obama supporter by it's cover.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:59 PM
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29. The Boston Globe has endorsed Obama.
No small thing in this neck of the woods.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:38 PM
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35. And in the last 4 elections, the candidates who got the Globe's endorsement became the nominee 3
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 02:39 PM by jenmito
times. Not so with the DMR endorsement.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:30 AM
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3. Teehee.
:)
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:18 PM
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23. It pushed Edwards up to second place in the caucus...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:37 AM
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4. Ha - I knew that had to be Craig Crawford - and it is.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:40 AM
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5. HRC will finish 3rd or 4th in Iowa and here's what Crawford will say
"It was a bad night for Obama."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:40 AM
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:43 AM
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7. K&R!
"Obama-mania suffers major blow" well at least, it something they are used to.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:43 AM
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8. It was important for her
The editorial did frame Clinton's message effectively, and it altered local news coverage while doing so - giveng Clinton some positive press at a time when Obama and Edwards were starting to get most of it. No doubt virtually all of the Democratic Iowa caucus voters will have read it before they "vote". Clinton's Iowas prospects certainly would have been more bleak had Obama gotten that endorsement instead. It gave Clinton a quality pause to catch a "second wind". Whether or not she does is a different story now in the early telling.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:52 AM
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9. How many "reboots" has it been now?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 09:53 AM
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10. Don't worry
Oprah will come running with her golden leash.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:10 PM
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21. Boy, Magic Johnson will really bring the votes in, eh?
:rofl:
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:26 AM
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11. The endorsement has nothing to do with this....
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:45 AM
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13. Hillary at 40% three times in a row?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:39 AM
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12. you Hillarites are clinging to this endorsement like a life raft
"It's supporting editorial concisely ratified her campaign’s closing argument "

As if the Clinton Camp wasn't involved in drafting this. They put their latest talking point in the endorsement.

To bad she has decided to shelf that thesis in favor of Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:46 AM
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14. "Inexperience" is the tag that Mr. Obama won't be able to shake off. (eom)
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:54 AM
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16. "Inexperience"
Like John F. Kennedy in 1960.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 12:44 PM
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18. "Life experience" counts too. JFK was a decorated war hero. His dad, Joe
was a prominent mover and shaker. I doubt if Obama moved in similar circles of influence.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:04 PM
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19. The Nixon camp hammered Kennedy on his "inexperience".
A Google of "John F. Kennedy" and "inexperience" leads to a bounty of hits.
Yet during the Cuban Missile Crisis Kennedy showed more intelligence and mettle than all the "experienced" brass in the Pentagon combined.
I'll take that kind of "inexperience" any day.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:27 PM
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26. You might but others not so much.
This is a different time - citizens are now more frightened than ever about the future. Experience, or the lack there of, was not really the issue - Kennedy was just simply more attractive than Nixon. Fortunately he turned out to be a calm and thoughtful President when he was challenged.

At this point in our history I think that voters (and it is the older citizens that show up and vote in greater numbers) want to be certain that an adult is in charge. They are not likely to take a chance with Obama. Maybe next time.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:57 PM
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27. Must disagree
The early 1960s was a very frightening time. The Cold War was raging, children were hiding under desks at school waiting for the nuke to drop, fallout shelter signs were everywhere. Remember those three triangles at the entrance to every basement?
The fear of nuclear war at that time was as great or greater than the current fear of another Al Qaeda attack today.
Experience sure was an issue for the Nixon campaign of 1960.
As far as "adult in charge", Kennedy was 43 at his inauguration, Obama would be 47 at his.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 04:31 PM
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40. We stopped hiding under our desks by the mid-50s.
Although the danger at the time may have been more real than now, there was also great effort to calm the nation. I don't remember ever really worrying about the bomb past 1956-57. In other words, we felt generally safe and thought our government had everything under control.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:21 PM
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24. Didn't Dan Quyale say the same thing?
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:22 PM by ronnykmarshall
:silly:
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:12 PM
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30. yes he did
But Quayle was an empty suit, unlike Obama and these "inexperienced" guys:

1. Theodore Roosevelt - age 42
2. John F. Kennedy - age 43*
3. Bill Clinton - age 46
4. Ulysses S. Grant - 46

So we have T. Roosevelt, Kennedy, Clinton and Grant, all inaugurated in their 40s. All younger than Obama would be at his inauguration.

Historically, it seems age and "experience" count less than character and ability.

* Kennedy was the youngest elected, TR was the youngest inaugurated after McKinley's assassination.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:13 PM
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31. This place is a load of laughs.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:19 PM
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32. That's some deep insight into the age/experience discussion.
Thanks for the contribution.
This place is, at times, indeed a load of laughs.

:rofl:

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:28 PM
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33. Point proven
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:34 PM
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34. What point?
FYI- the big white box below "subject" is where you provide your counterpoint.
Subject lines alone are a waste of my time.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:49 AM
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15. The endorsement helps, but ...
... but in the end, Hillary is still a candidate with high negatives (somewhat unfairly) who represents nothing new. She's doesn't really have a vision; she just has a pretty good machine backing her up. I think Obama will win Iowa and Edwards will take second place. I think Hillary's biggest problem is that she represents the Democratic status quo, and hardly anyone is happy with what the Democrats in Congress are doing.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 11:54 AM
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17. Chuckle. Yeah, like Craig Crawford's goofy pronouncements ...
... have ever been anything to pay attention to.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:15 PM
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22. Why are you all paying attention to Craig Crawford??
He's a known Clintonista. He's been hating on Barack ever since February. And is he seriously saying the DMR endorsement will help Hillary in other states? LOL Wow, he's really reaching for it! I'm sure all those folks in South Carolina were anxiously waiting to hear from the DMR so they can make their decision.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:45 PM
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38. Crawford also thought it was a-ok for the Clinton camp to pull that cocaine thing...
saying the Repubs. WILL bring it up, so it's valid for the Clinton camp to air their "concerns" about it. :eyes:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:24 PM
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25. The newspapers endorsement doesn't mean ANYTHING to changing Iowan voters minds.
Edited on Tue Dec-18-07 01:26 PM by Kerry2008
They're independent thinkers. Surely they're read the endorsement and weigh their options, but this is only a good talking point for the Clinton campaign.

How it reboots her campaign is beyond me. You didn't make that case at all.

Obama and Edwards have the edge in Iowa. How Hillary could gain back so much ground in ONE newspaper endorsement is quite a silly thing to assume.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 01:58 PM
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28. Imagine my surprise....
When I found that you were the poster, wyldwolf. I guess a day without a swipe at Obama is like a day without sunshine, huh?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:42 PM
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36. Bill Clinton wined and dined that female board. They endorsed her with the Clintons' talking points
All quite meaningless.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:45 PM
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37. A handsome guy and a little wine and a gal will do anything, right? n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-18-07 02:46 PM
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39. If the guy happens to be Bill Clinton, most likely. Yes. n/t
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