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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:02 PM
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Ed Schultz's rant about Hillary Clinton yesterday - "I am done with the Clintons."
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 12:08 PM by Pirate Smile
I heard it but now Politico has the transcript up:


Ed Schultz, demanding attention
Hmm. Maybe if I acted like this more I'd get more exclusive interviews.

From yesterday's Ed Schultz show, in which Schultz, a leading liberal talker, talks to Carl from Phoenix:

You know what, Hillary, if you are afraid of the questions, if you are afraid of it, Biden, I don’t want you to be president of the United States. I want somebody who is going to flat-out get after it in front of the people. Is it grandiose, no, not at all because this show is going to make it with or without them. But I know what the people want. I know what the American people want. How many times do we have people call in complaining about the mainstream media not reporting this and not reporting that. We give them a microphone and they don’t even freaking use it. I am done with the Clintons. I’m done with the cheap shots. I’m done with the innuendos. I’m done with the blaming it on The Des Moines Register. Hillary, I do not want you to be the nominee. Biden, I do not want you to be the nominee. I’m taking a stand here and I am being self-serving.

His last tantrum got her on the air; we'll see how this one works.

Full transcript, worth reading, after the jump.



On the Tuesday 12-18 Ed Schultz Show, the nations most listened to Progressive talk show host says that he is done with Clinton.

Transcript of Schultz talking to Phoenix caller Carl.



ES: You hit the nail on the head my friend when you said that I’m not real happy with Hillary Clinton for not coming on this program. You are not embarrassing me. You are exactly right. And if you will notice a couple of things, I do not put surrogates on this program. I want the candidates. Barack Obama was on yesterday and John Edwards will be on tomorrow. Chris Dodd has been on repeatedly, I bet John Edwards has been on this program 15 times this year. We’ve had Richardson on, Kucinich in studio and on repeatedly, who benefits?

Carl: We do

ES: You better believe it. You better believe it. In this audio culture that we are battling through okay? There are in this country conservative talk radio stations and there are progressive talk radio stations. Most programmers in this country will not drop the Ed Schultz show in the middle of a couple of conservatives because they are in the ridiculous mindset that it will screw up the format and it has to be of one line of thinking. Okay that’s the way the industry is, this is the fishbowl that we have to swim in, so be it. I have been in front in Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden have been in attendance, please turn down your radio if you can.

Carl: I don’t have the radio on.

ES: Oh ok we had a little echo, but thank you for hanging on. I have spoken on numerous occasion behind closed doors in the Johnson room on Capitol Hill to the senate democrats about the state of talk radio. I am not at liberty to say all the things that we have discussed but I will tell you this. They have been told, they have been asked, please be accessible, talk to the base. If there is one thing that the republicans have done, conservatives have done is that they have always gone to the base and solidified the base. Talk to the people unedited. Don’t give me a 10 second soundbyte that I have to take off of CNN and then make a case for the progressive movement. Don’t do that to me. I carried more water for John Kerry than anybody on the radio in this country, day after day after day. I wanted Kerry to be the president of the United States. The listeners of this show wanted Kerry to be the president of the United States. Here I am fighting this battle. I’ll give any of these candidates, Don’t give me your surrogates. Obviously I will visit with Elizabeth Edwards and there is one exception obviously Tom Daschle is a friend of mine. He’s been a friend of mine for a long time. We’re in this fight together. I am absolutely perplexed about how Hillary Clinton can stand up and say that ‘we’re so concerned about the right wing sound machine and Rush Limbaugh and Hannity and all these other people with microphones, where’s our people.’ Well you know what Hillary, here we are, here we are. Name one place Carl where you can get Hillary Clinton unedited, the answer is you can’t find it.

Carl: I would agree, I want to make something perfectly clear

ES: No no no no. I’ve got plenty of time. I’ve got to the top of the hour, you may be the caller to the top of the hour.

Carl: OK sir.

ES: We all have our issues, and something is really strange here. Does Hillary Clinton think that I am going to nail her. Does she think that this is some kind of torpedo thing or something. Every time the Bush white house gets in trouble they don’t run, they sprint with a stopwatch to fox news. They can’t get there fast enough. They call their conservative talk show hosts on the air from the white house demanding access. That my friend is infrastructure. If we are going to build the confidence of progressive listeners, independently minded thinking people in this country, who like the fact that there are people out there making decisions on destroying CIA tapes and the protect America act, just to name a few current things that are out there. That maybe it would be good to talk to the folks unedited. This is part of the fight of the culture of media access. And I am down on Biden and I am down on Hillary Clinton and I am not going to hide it. They are not helping Hartman out, they are not helping Rhodes out, they are not helping Stephanie Miller. I called Woody the other day and I asked ‘woody when was the last time that Hillary Clinton was on Bill Press show’ ‘oh about 2 years ago.’ Don’t tell me behind closed doors that you are really concerned about the sound chamber of America and we are out here battling and battling and battling and we don’t have any access. That tells me that number one you don’t give a dam, or you are afraid to talk to the base or you are afraid of the questions. You know what Hillary if you are afraid of the questions, if you are afraid of it Biden, I don’t want you to be president of the United States. I want somebody who is going to flat out get after it in front of the people. Is it grandiose, no, not at all because this show is going to make it with or without them. But I know what the people want. I know what the American people want. How many times do we have people call in complaining about the main stream media not reporting this and not reporting that. We give them a microphone and they don’t even freaking use it. I am done with the Clintons. I’m done with the cheap shots. I’m done with the innuendos. I’m done with the blaming it on the Des Moines Register. Hillary I do not want you to be the nominee. Biden I do not want you to be the nominee. I’m taking a stand here and I am being self serving. Just like there are Americans out there being self serving about health care. Just like there are Americans out there being self serving about tax cuts or faith and politics. I can’t believe that Barack Obama can call me yesterday from his bus just on a whim after we asked about it maybe an hour beforehand ‘hey we’d like to get you on talking about what the former president said about your experience.’ ‘yea we’ll make it happen.’ Boom. You mean to tell me that the guy who happens to be leading in Iowa is so much less busy than Hillary Clinton. No I am not the issue Carl. Because I have to ask the question, is this the way the white house is going to be run. Is this the way it is? Because keep in mind that on the front cover of talkers magazine, the front cover of one of the biggest industry magazine that is out there, the monthly magazine of talkers magazine. There’s Bush, he’s sitting there with slanthead Hannity, and Michael Medved and Neil Borsch and Laura Ingrahim. They are coddled right into the white house. That president spent more time with right wing talkers than he does with the families that have served up lives in Iraq. They think talking to the American people is important. They think getting their base solidified is huge. Where are you hillary? You should be on all of these progressive talk shows weekly. All of them. Not mine, all of them, ok? This is about winning the fight of audio because audio is positioned for the future. We are not in the radio business anymore, we are in the audio business. It stored, it’s podcasted, it’s downloaded, it’s satellited and da da da da da. The spoken word is far more influential today, by the way newspapers are declining in readership, declining in revenue. Hell the right winger that is running the FCC who is the chairman right now is trying to change the rules so these right wingers can get their newspapers under control. Oh excuse me, Hillary is probably concerned that I am going to ask her about ‘what in the hell are you doing taking money from Rupert Murdoch.’ Maybe that is the question that she doesn’t want to answer.

Carl: Is that against the law?

ES: It’s not against the law, but I don’t think..

Carl: Ok then why do you keep all these people that call your show Ed keep saying the same thing, it’s not against the law to take money from these people that you guys don’t want her to take money from. None of the candidates anybody can take the money from those people. I don’t care if it is special interests or whatever, but you guys keep whining about her taking money from….

ES: Carl you’re a plant, you are not a core democrat. You’re a plant and you know it, yes you are. Since I took the floor I am going to give you the final comment in fairness but I believe that you are a Clinton plant but go ahead.

Carl: I absolutely am not a Clinton plant and absolutely am not a full fledged Hillary supporter. I still have not made up my mind who I am voting for Ed. That is not a fair statement. You go on for almost 25 minutes, granted it is your show.

ES: No it was exactly 8 minutes, and you are one of the very few callers that I have carried through break and given you more air time. Stop attacking me carl, I didn’t attack you, I talked about the issue, now I am going to give you a third chance to talk about the issue without involving me.

Carl: (silence)

ES: I didn’t think you could do it.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Ed_Schultz_demanding_attention.html

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:05 PM
Response to Original message
1. Ed sees the DLC for what they really are. n/t
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:11 PM
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4. You got that right. nt
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
20. Egg-Zackly



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
42. He was claiming that there is a trail of bodies behind the Clintons
Poor ol' ed has gone off the deep end right behind the right
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:06 PM
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2. Maybe that is the question that she doesn’t want to answer.
"Oh excuse me, Hillary is probably concerned that I am going to ask her about ‘what in the hell are you doing taking money from Rupert Murdoch.’"

Spot
on.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
14. What was the question?
I don't know who he is, nor does it say what the question was, but it seems like a far left extremist rant to me...
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
26. go back and read my post. n/t
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. A far left extremist rant?
Have you been watching too muc of Bill O'Reilly? If you have a problem with what he said then say what your problem is, because I actually read what he said and he makes perfect sense. Please cut this crap out, I am sick of these idiotic talking points to discredit someone because they happen to attack your candidate.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #14
32. Murdoch is the biggest player in rightwing media.

He is not the guy that made up most of the fake Clinton scandals (that would be Richard Mellon-Scaiffe in Pittsburgh). But his media empire is every bit as rightwing and much larger. The jewel in Murdoch's crown: Fox News Channel.


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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #14
33. There's nothing remotely "far-left" about Schultz
Quite the opposite actually. He used to be a Republican. DLC money actually put him on the air in the first place. But it seems like he's finally coming around to reality.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #2
21. Hillary would rather PLANT questions....
...than answer them.


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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:07 PM
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3. Well, he's pissed off nt
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:11 PM
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5. This is a riot.
Used to be that Ed was a "Rush sounding, moderate DLC loving, only became a democrat because he couldn't make it as a conservative talk host, son of satan".

NOW ..... well he hates the Clinton's so now he's a saint.

God this place is predictable.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. I don't think he's a saint by any means-
But the truth is the truth. I have honestly had it with these people, and their slimy tactics.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. How are you dealing with Stephanie? Are you still listening or is it driving you crazy
when she is going after Hillary?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. I think it's a scream.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 12:18 PM by ronnykmarshall
I even went to Stephanie's rally w/ CC last friday.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:18 PM
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11. I was just curious because I know you love Steph and Hillary.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Did you hear the Sister Mary Elephant bit today?
I was screaming!

That and the "Mars Attacks" references are my favorites.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:50 PM
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18. I missed that. I'll catch it this afternoon on my Stephanie Miller podcast - only
$4.95 a year if you buy in advance - bing!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
23. The Education of Ed Shultz.
You are correct in your initial assessment of Ed Shultz.
He has evolved from a bush* appeasing (support the Party above Principles ) "Centrist",
to a fire breathing Populist.

I attribute this evolution to 5 years of WATCHING our Democratic Party leadership in action.

Anybody who pays attention will come to the correct conclusion that the Party (celebrity) leadership has been compromised by BIG MONEY.


He is MAD, and he is not going to take it anymore.
I'm with Ed.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #23
39. Yeah, that's right. HE'S the one that changed his mind.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:23 PM
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31. he's mad for the right reasons. Hillary won't come on. I love when
all the candidates come on for their three hours. Name another talk show that allows candidates three full hours to spew. none do. ed does a service and he's right. Hillary won't come on. Too bad. She might have a chance to sway people.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #5
35. No actually it shows that someone that even leans right
on the Dem side (Ed) can see Hillary for what she is. This is perfect! I've only listened to Ed a few times and I would say he is the definition of a moderate. And yeah-Hillary is too right wing for him.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:14 PM
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7. Poor Big Ed...he needs his binky!!!

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #7
17. LOL...
I'm not sure what's going on, but it would seem you're correct, LOL
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 04:43 PM
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40. Um, this is typical of Ed. He does this to get Democrats to come
on the show. First, he's nice, then he gets more pleading; finally, he goes MAJORLY NEGATIVE on that Democrat. This Hillary/Biden rant is more transparent, but oftentimes, he goes negative on that Democrat as related to the issues, and you'll find yourself scratching your head -- Hey, I thought he LIKED Democrat X, yet now he is trashing Democrat X. Then suddenly, Democrat X appears on Ed's show and all is forgiven. Check Larry Johnson's archive, and he has a story of a run in with Ed, too.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:17 PM
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10. anybody who thinks Biden OR Clinton
is afraid of a microphone is an idiot.

The old joke in DC is that the most dangerous place to stand is between Joe Biden and an open mic.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Exactly...
what was the freaking question anyway??
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:19 PM
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12. I was impressed ...

Wow, Ed is in real danger of becoming an actual Progressive now. I was impressed for once.

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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Actual Progressive?
Is this one of those sarcastic remarks I don't get?

Big hot air Ed will never be a progressive. He's a recovering Republican who still has moments of Republicanism.
Whining because someone chooses not to come on his piddlyass show is an O Riley tactic. It looks stupid on both of them.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. You nailed it. He's a converted conservative who's making a buck as a born-again liberal
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:11 AM
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43. In this role he is valuable ...

Who better to recover the brainwashed then someone who has already blazed that trail. No vegan, greenpeace liberal will ever get a Midwesterner out of the Republican delusion. It takes someone who has been down that trail.

I was really disappointed in Ed Schultz when I first heard him. He had some real conservative moments. But his own callers seem to nail him when he does this and he seems to come around. The fact that a persons belief system is not static is a credit, not a vice. That is so long as they can admit they were previously wrong.

He seems generally converted now, I'm happy with that. He gets good ratings and is going toe to toe with Limbaugh. Lets face it, Al Franken was never going to convert anybody. He was preaching to the choir (which is something you also need). Lets also remember that the REAL AND ACTUAL big tent is NOT the Republican party. The big tent switched over to the Democrats when the parties realigned in the 60s.

We have a great variety of views in the Democratic party. As disappointed as I am in a DLC Democrat, we should have no doubt that ANY Republican (even the few who aren't fruit loops) is worse then a DLC Democrat. You have to suffer their presence as they will vote with you on a great variety of issues. That's Democracy and you'll never get to elect the Dennis Kucinich (who's about one or two more step too the left of my views) types without progressing through the DLCers and moderates.

Now just listen to Big Eddy going after all the DLCers on his program. He's for Universal Health Care. He was promoting Sicko. But he has a few outliers. And he is coming around.

Big Eddy is reformed. I say give him a chance now. Thomm Hartman is smarter and better informed. I prefer listening to Thomm Hartman. But ultimately I think Big Eddy will do more to bring moderates back into the Democratic party. Bigger Democratic majorities mean that there is more freedom to elect leaders who are more left of center.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
25. This is just his ego problem -
He is a ordinary garden variety bully wanker.

Why should the smartest girl in the class talk to the dumb bench-sitting want-a-be blowhole jock.

Most women, and lots of men, hate this kind of "dumb jock with the mic look at me I am important" drivel. Fortunately, once we left high school it was not part of a life any longer - until someone gave this fool a gig.

He got this gig for the purpose of helping Tom Daschle keep his senate seat - he got an F but he is still with us.

If Hillary was not running his show would be off the air - it has no sustainable value except to bash her.

ES is not smart, does not do his research, and has giant gaps in his knowledge of history and politics. In short - he is an idiot. He calls himself a progressive because the marketing department told him to - he does not even know what it means.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:16 PM
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22. ES wears his jock backward - it helps when he shits himself. n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:21 PM
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24. Good for Big Ed.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 01:52 PM
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28. He sounds high as a coon to me.
Edited on Wed Dec-19-07 01:52 PM by Perry Logan
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #28
37. Nooo! Perry! I'm shocked you dont agree with him here... I need to sit down.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:00 PM
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29. Ed has been attacking Clinton for weeks now
He was attacking her for not talking to the media a few weeks ago, until someone told him that the usual strategy of the front runner is to not give interviews in the media. Ed, of course ignored that because he did not want facts to get in the way of his attack.

So, now he is upset because Bill Clinton "attacked" Obama for suggesting that EXPERIENCE is an issue in the campaign. And that Hillary did not take the obvious bait from Gregory in that fuckedupdesignedtoattackclinton inteview.

Ed is not Liberal. He is not Progressive. Ever hear his ads with the auto industry? When they were on strike he had the managment on asking questions about how those damn workers were destroying the company.

Ed is a corporate shill whose opinion is not what it seems.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:17 PM
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34. Ed's not a liberal? Well, he sure sounds like one, moreso than Hillary ever did!
Ed has been bashing the Bush administration for the last 2 or 3 years.
He has even called for Bus to be impeached!

Hillary's husband has been dating George Bush Senior like he wants to take him to the prom.

What's the difference here?
Ed isn't dating a Bush, he's helping remove the Bushes from the White House.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 02:01 PM
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30. That's nice, I guess. Whatever.
I'm underwhemled with excitement over that.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:22 PM
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36. Sounds like a temper tantrum to me...
...apparently Ed thinks he's more important than he is.

I might just put Biden at #2 for this.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 03:42 PM
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38. The Clintons have their main media outlets
Iraq is off the front page for a reason. They don't need any liberal media. We're just too fucking stupid to realize we're being played.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-19-07 11:27 PM
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41. i love Big Ed's rants
i heard this one yesterday, didn't bother to bring it up here, too many with the usual 'Ed is a rightwing in Leftie cloth' schlop responses.

but guess what? He gets through to many if not most of the dyed in the wool, down-home, liberal, good old boys and girls who are fighting for grits for groceries, and are fed the fuck up with the status quo, do nothing Washington elite. And you want to venture another guess?

they vote too. Ed's got their ears right now. And it sounds about right to them. Ignore them at your own peril.

:kick: and a big R!
dp
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:17 AM
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44. Me too dweller !! .. Although he'll be out the rest of this week and..


"Nor-Man Goldman" will be filling in for him.. (he's pretty good too)

Did anyone happen to hear Senator Edwards on there this morning? I missed the first segment, so if he was on (and he was scheduled to be on then) .... I missed him.

Anyone hear it?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-20-07 02:22 AM
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45. Funny how Hillary has no problem showing up on Joe Scarborough's show and Fox News....
Hmmm.... Ed's 100% right. What is Hillary afraid of -- some real questions that require answers that Mark Penn hasn't poll-tested yet?
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