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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 01:56 PM Original message |
Can someone give me a non-hyperbolic reason why Obama "can't win"? |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. There's still racism in this country |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Do you think racists would vote for other Democrats? |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yes. I know some who are like that. n/t |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Some would, yes. I know too many racist DEMS. And other racists who may not usually vote |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I think a lot of good, wonderful people don't CONSIDER themselves racist, and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. The Democrats have a very mixed constituency to deal with. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. We already lost those people. NT |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I disagree. As previous posts say |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Don't bet on it. Remember it was a "Democrat" that raised the spectre |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I think it was Obama who raised the spectre of drugs... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Obama was candid about his past. Shaheen twisted that into |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Obama revealed his own drug use...he raised the issue... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I don't recall the Senator casting himself as a drug dealer. |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Where did I write that Obama was a "drug dealer"? I defy you to cite that post. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You're not even reading this exchange are you? |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 11:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You're not writing anything of note. What is there to "read"? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. That's right. And, even though I do not agree with Obama |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Reallly good point |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Oh, sure. But still, those people still have to come up with and verbalize |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Many of his followers are very divisive. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. ANd clinton supports are not divisive????? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The poster didn't suggest there were limits . Just add that some HRC supporters are too |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. The Primaries? b/c Hil is not going to lose to him at any cost. The General, he has the same shot... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. My non-hyperbolic reason why Obama "can't win" |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think his name is a huge problem for him |
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ElizabethDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I agree. I think that's even bigger than the race issue, which I think would also be a problem. n/t |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. I agree. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. how would this change btwn what polls say now, and voting time?... |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. The thing is, most Americans still have no idea what his middle name is. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. "Southern Strategy" |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
16. By the time the millions of folks who want to vote for an Obama |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Well said! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. I love that graphic |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. If we shut our eyes real tight and wish real hard |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. They would have to have an awful candidate |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. The OP was about the general election |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Well, I hope you're right but, I'm one of "those people" |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. The only way we'll break down these barriers |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
45. Great Post! |
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Lurking Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Bingo. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'm not for him in the primaries -- But I think he can win the GE |
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ncabot22 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. I think he can win, but what confuses me is |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Maybe, maybe not |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. It truly pains my heart to even say if obama happens to get the |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. Unconscious Racial Bias |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. I can't exactly do that, because I think Obama can win |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. Two reasons (not "can't win" reasons, but "unlikely to win" reasons) |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. excellent analysis.nt |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. I think he can win, but he just doesn't deserve to after the McClurkin ignominy |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. I just want to say, it is really not necessary to bring out |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
47. the worm seems to have turned |
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