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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 05:52 PM Original message |
Convince me that an Edwards victory in Iowa means anything besides a Hillary nomination |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Edwards wins means Hillary is nominated? |
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Happyhippychick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. A victory in Iowa doesn't mean that anything is guaranteed. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. If Edwards wins Iowa he'll get a TON of national attention. and if Obama... |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. "Obama's plans are so close to hils" |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. yet another reason to vote edwards. :D. |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. ;-) |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. Edwards would have to win big over Obama, which will probably not happen. |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Hillary coming in a distant 3rd may shake it up, too. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. An Edwards win is going to make Edwards President |
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comradebillyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. Who ever wins in Iowa will gain momentum |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. Let me see here, Edwards wins, gets face plastered all over media for a week straight.... |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Is that enough to help his poor poll numbers there? |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Did it help Kerry who was polling at single digits in NH? |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Kerry benefitted from being a neighboring senator as well. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Sen. Clinton has the Iowa lead in some polls, although not all polls, and |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Excellent post. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Even if Edwards wins Iowa, it's still possible Obama will win NH given the strong independent vote. |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Agreed (assuming he places ahead of Hillary in Iowa). |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Iowans will turn out in some percentage or other, and hold in their hands |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. I'm going to have to see the win by Obama in S.C to believe |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. You may have a close read there on some voters in SC, but the nomination |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. that's some very convoluted reasoning regarding SC |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
12. As long as Obama beats Hillary, Edwards' position is irrelevant. |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Probably right. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. I think the opposite is true. Edwards has a better chance than Obama of winning |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. polls a year out don't mean anything much even if they favor your |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. No it's not the money |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Then why did your candidate choose NOT to take public funding until he |
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elizm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. Edwards is only competitive in Iowa... |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. my thoughts exactly |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Spot on IMO |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Your theory leaves out a very important factor... |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Agreed, although it becomes a game of margins. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-23-07 02:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
54. I agree too |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. An Edwards win does Not mean a Hillary nomination. For one thing the Party |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. Trying desperately to get more Obama votes? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. The arithmetic is not aligned toward it, but one scenario for Iowa might |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:43 PM Original message |
That is about the most absurd reasoning anyone could ever come up |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Excuse me? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. . |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. You nailed it |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. self delete, dupe |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
33. By this logic |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
38. Convince Me An Obama Victory in Iowa means anything besides a Hillary nomination... |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Well Obama is at least competitive in NH and SC. nm |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
39. Okay I'm confused.... |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. The assumption is that Obama is in better shape to take her on nationally |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Wow I had no idea Obama was in better shape to take her on nationally.... |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Obama polls much better than JE and has lots of money. I have no doubt |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-23-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. The latest national poll has it |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-23-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. How much time is left? |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
40. It may be more the other way around. |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. just a week away |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
43. Edwards has already been on the national ticket |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
44. If Edwards wins in Iowa he gains momentum |
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Inspired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
45. An Edwards win in Iowa is an Edwards win. Good grief. |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-22-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Let's not analyze it or anything. |
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Stop Cornyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-23-07 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
57. The best Iowa scenario for those who dislike Hillary is for Hillary to finish third or worse. The |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-24-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I think I've come to this agreement. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-23-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
58. Edwards has a lot of volunteers. Thought I would point that out. |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. What place was Kerry running in New Hampshire pre-Iowa caucus? |
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Fried Bread (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-25-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That's right. |
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