Is Dean In or Out?

Please help me, I'm confused. Is Dean In or Out? Isn't he already on the ballot in all 50 states? Didn't he say he's still in, but won't be actively campaigning? (Ran out of money?). If Dean made some roaring comeback, couldn't he win on Super Tuesday? I like Kucinich and Edwards sort of and liked Dean (grudgingly) since he said "multinational corporation" at least 12 times on national television (you can't argue with success), so who knows?

So is Dean In or Out?

Since he's still on the ballot, although his chances are slim, if enough people voted for him, he could still win the nod

Kucinich can't, Sharpton can't, can Dean? Do you know how many delegates he needs to have pull at the convention? Dean can surely get 15% of California and New York can't he? Is there a Dean vs. Edwards fight for second place?

Not likely to come anywhere near winning the nomination (unless Kerry implodes, which isn't at all unlikely, depending on how long it takes him vis a vis the primaries).

if so, he's in.

Just because the ballots were printed weeks ago, doesn't mean he can come back.

Come back to reality.

but he is still in the race.

and claim to be the comeback kid, anything is possible. Until I hear Dean endorse someone, I consider him in. He is on ballots in all 50 states, and I think Edwards and Kerry are about to be destroyed but shrub and the corporate media.

He has suspended his campaign. That's not the same as withdrawing completely from the race. It means his campaign is in stasis pending how many more delegates he gets to convention.

Please get your facts straight before you end up with egg on your face.

Have you been living in a cave?

DU groups that don't want this to be the case... some of the DUdean supporters look for "nuance" in the in/out/in but not actively campaigning (same as out) line. Then there are those who love to bash dean and dean supporters who don't seem to be able to let go of the habit... seems that contingent is keeping Dean in - just to be able to keep bashing him.

He claimed Kerry was "on the take." Thus Kerry won't hitch up with him. Thus he'll get maybe 7 minutes at the podium in July.

He is just not "actively campaigning" he is still on the ballot and his delegates will have a voice at the convention, if you vote for him.

."I'd also like to say that whatever it is that Howard Dean knows -- or whatever it is that he eats for breakfast every morning -- if I could give it to every other Democratic office holder and would-be office holder, we would immediately become the majority in the Congress and we would have about 35 governors. I have to tell you, I think a big part of it is just producing for people, actually doing what you say you're going to do at election time."
- President Bill Clinton addressing the Democratic Governor’s Association, 12 November 1997

But mabye quitting will energize his 5% Democratic base.

There is a difference.

Please get your facts straight before posting, so as to reduce embarrasment to yourself later.

rather than withdrawn. Jomentum, Gephardt, Braun and Graham have withdrawn.

the race. Dean otoh is still encouraging supporters to vote for him and is simply not actively promoting his candidacy through advertising or appearances.

Personally I think it's a bad strategy for him, but it's his call to make.:shrug:

Dean can't forward his agenda, and he can't fight to keep progressive issues on the front burner, because he's no longer pursuing the nomination.

A vote for Dean now is a vote for silence on all the issues Dean said were important: taking back the party, opposing Bush, opposing the war in Iraq.

Dean = Silence.

There's no other way of looking at it.

Governor Brown can tell you about how little effect "kingmaking" will have at the Convention, on the platform of the nominee.

Vote for a candidate who is running for the nomination, and who still has plenty of money in the bank. Vote for Dennis and keep your issues at the forefront.

Fear Ends
Hope Begins
Kucinich 2004

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Vote for principle! Vote for Kucinich!

Why would he do that? Dean's views are much more like his in many ways. But he did it in Iowa, just as Gephardt did.....the day of the caucus.

Gep went to Kerry, Kucinich went to Edwards that day....they told their caucus goers. The Dean camp was blindsided.

Oops, I am not supposed to say that.... am I? It was not their fault. No, not at all. Hit from two directions, Dean was, but it was all his fault.

And Kucinich supporters did not see anything out of place in this, either.

for more than a year now. It has to be eating him up.

It appears to be eating more Dean supporters up that Kucinich didn't team with him in Iowa! Yessiree it's all Kucinich's fault Dean didn't take Iowa by storm.

What don't some people get about political strategy?!

Dean wouldn't do a delegate trade with DK because he didn't think he needed to. You can attribute it to personal animosity or the simple raw politicking that it was. It was not an ideological deal, it was a numerical deal. Who knew Edwards would come in second?

aspparently he's just collecting delegates as a broker.