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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:51 AM
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Clinton for Senate; Obama for President
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 01:51 AM by hnmnf
David Brooks

Hillary Clinton has been a much better senator than Barack Obama. She has been a serious, substantive lawmaker who has worked effectively across party lines. Obama has some accomplishments under his belt, but many of his colleagues believe that he has not bothered to master the intricacies of legislation or the maze of Senate rules. He talks about independence, but he has never quite bucked liberal orthodoxy or party discipline.

If Clinton were running against Obama for Senate, it would be easy to choose between them.

But they are running for president, and the presidency requires a different set of qualities. Presidents are buffeted by sycophancy, criticism and betrayal. They must improvise amid a thousand fluid crises. They're isolated and also exposed, puffed up on the outside and hollowed out within. With the presidency, character and self-knowledge matter more than even experience. There are reasons to think that, among Democrats, Obama is better prepared for this madness.


Obama is an inner-directed man in a profession filled with insecure outer-directed ones. He was forged by the process of discovering his own identity from the scattered facts of his childhood, a process that is described in finely observed detail in "Dreams From My Father." Once he completed that process, he has been astonishingly constant.

Moreover, he has a worldview that precedes political positions. Obama does not ratchet up hostilities; he restrains them. He does not lash out at perceived enemies, but is aloof from them. In the course of this struggle to discover who he is, Obama clearly learned from the strain of pessimistic optimism that stretches back from Martin Luther King Jr. to Abraham Lincoln. This is a worldview that detests anger as a motivating force, that distrusts easy dichotomies between the parties of good and evil, believing instead that the crucial dichotomy runs between the good and bad within each individual.

Obama also has powers of observation that may mitigate his own inexperience and the isolating pressures of the White House. In his famous essay, "Political Judgment," Isaiah Berlin writes that wise leaders don't think abstractly. They use powers of close observation to integrate the vast shifting amalgam of data that constitute their own particular situation -- their own and no other.

Obama demonstrated those powers in "Dreams From My Father" and still reveals glimpses of the ability to step outside his own ego and look at reality in uninhibited and honest ways. He still retains the capacity, also rare in presidents, of being able to sympathize with and grasp the motivations of his rivals. What Bill Clinton said on "The Charlie Rose Show" is right: picking Obama is a roll of the dice. But for Democrats, there's a roll of the dice either way. The presidency is a bacterium. It finds the open wounds in the people who hold it. It infects them, and the resulting scandals infect the presidency and the country. The person with the fewest wounds usually does best in the White House and is best for the country.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071227/OPINION01/712270313/1008

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:55 AM
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1. Clinton isn't running for a Senate seat.
She is running for POTUS, as is Obama.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:56 AM
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2. That's a good write-up for Obama.
Worthy of a kick.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:57 AM
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3. But She Voted for the Bankruptcy Reform Act
Something for which America should never forgive her. Sorry Bill, I love you, but Hillary makes my blood run cold.

How do you spell "v-e-n-d-i-d-o?"
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:01 AM
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4. do you have a link to the vote on the u.s. senate site? thanks. or know...
the date or number of the bill so i can find it?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:07 AM
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7. Here
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 02:08 AM by chascarrillo
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:08 AM
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8. she didn't vote on that. it's gotta be another one.
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 02:08 AM by annie1
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:10 AM
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10. Nope
That's the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act. Clinton didn't vote on it.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:12 AM
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11. i'm talking about the one the person can't forgive her for. maybe...
it's a dif. bankruptcy bill they're thinking of. i remember there is one bankruptcy bill that both she and biden voted for, that possibly obama voted for as well. i can't quite remember it.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:22 AM
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13. The big one was the 2005 Bankruptcy Prevention and Reform Act
... and the only one I'm aware of. There were a ton of amendments to it, so maybe something's hidden in there, but she is on record as voting against cloture (against sending it to a vote), so I'm not sure where the confusion is.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:23 AM
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14. thanks. i'm trying to see who voted with her, what states.
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 02:24 AM by annie1
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:14 AM
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12. wrong bill i think, what bill did she vote for that you can't forgive her for?
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:00 AM
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15. I spell it: GOOGLE
(ven-dee-doh) Sell out. see hispanic. "Lalo wrote that essay for that gringo book- what a vendido!"

:rofl:

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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 10:46 AM
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19. My Bad - She "Did not Vote"
Thanks to you all for setting me straight. I could have SWORN I remember when that bill passed and the Chimp signed it, that Hillary voted against it. The DU studs have set me straight - Hillary did not vote.

It still sucks that she didn't vote. Even Dianne Feinstein voted against it.

THANKS ALL! I STAND CORRECTED!
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:04 AM
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5. This is old. He wrote it on the 18th
and it's Brooks, so I don't really care what he has to say even if I like Obama.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:06 AM
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6. I apologize if its old
I dont remember seeing it a week ago or so, and the site lists it from December 27th
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 02:09 AM
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9. No problem. They're just running it late n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:12 AM
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16. PNACer, neocon and Bill Kristol clone, David Brooks is backing Obama.
That's a good one. :rofl:
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:58 AM
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17. Why in heaven's name
should Obama get a promotion? For his lack-luster vote-missing Senate performance? Or to ride on affirmative action (again)?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:11 AM
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18. Classic! -Obama supporters citing David Brooks
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 05:12 AM by depakid
Dump on Krugman and Sirota and elevate the likes of Brooks.

Kinda shows you where the campaign is going... and would go.
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