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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:53 PM
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When negative ads tell the truth, are they still negative?
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 01:55 PM by antiimperialist
I get the impression that the conventional definition of a "negative ad" is simply an ad in which candidate A warns voters not to vote for candidate B because B did some very bad things. This definition seems not to consider whether these claims were true or false.

If your definition of "negative advertising" is an ad in which falsehoods are stated about the other candidates, then I'm against negative ads. But when I hear opponents of negative ads make their case, they simply argue against the practice of "attacking such and such candidate", as if the simple act of attacking this candidate is wrong, regardless of the evidence.

Would it be right or wrong for our candidate to remind voters that say, Mike Huckabee helped release a serial rapist from jail?
Would it be wrong for our candidate to remind voters that Mitt Romney is a flip-flopper?

Those are examples of "negative ads", in which candidate A does not argue in favor of his attributes, but chooses to remind voters about the shortcomings of electing his/her rival.

Negative ads are very useful, if you ask me, and they become positive if they are truthful, because we are given reasons why we shouldn't cast a vote for a person who will screw the nation.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:55 PM
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1. Uhhhhhhh, no.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 01:57 PM
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2. Of course they do! What do you expect, politicians swaping recipes and making necklaces from beads?
Mind you, at least it'd be a change...
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:04 PM
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3. flip-flopper charge: presumes reasonable people cannot change their minds based on new evidence nt
and that cuts both ways political party-wise

Msongs
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:06 PM
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4. And coincidencially this "new evidence" comes when it is most convenient
Edited on Tue Jan-01-08 02:06 PM by antiimperialist
Have you noticed flip-flopping candidates usually flip-flop when the change is favored among the constituency they are trying to attract?
And for some reason the "new evidence" coming to Romney never goes lefts. It always moves right.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:13 PM
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5. Was the Willie Horton ad negative?
After all, Willie Horton was paroled from jail and then he raped and murdered a woman. So, it was true.

Of course, we might ask, how much did Dukakis have to do with Willie Horton's release? Why did they show a picture of Willie Horton?

Whether or not an ad is true or false depends largely on your perspective. Romney claims he's not a flip-flopper. I think an ad that points out Romney's different positions on various issues is less negative than one that calls him a flip-flopper.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:32 PM
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6. You've found the key
They have to be truthful. If negative ads simply state the facts, citing sources (or, better yet, running film proving it), it can be quite powerful.
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