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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:26 AM
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BREAKING: Kucinich fails to qualify for Texas ballot because he refuses pledge to support nominee!
From the Houston Chronicle:
"Democrat Dennis Kucinich apparently will not be on the ballot because the party returned his application after he scratched out a portion of the oath pledging support for the party's presidential nominee if it was not him, said party spokeswoman Amber Moon."

This offers some insight both to Kucinich's flirtation with Republican Ron Paul as VP and his endorsement of Barack "Reach Out to Republicans" Obama.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:27 AM
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1. OH WELL!!!
Like they say; Live by the sword, die by the sword!!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:58 AM
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11. This is a fine example of his rigid stance.
He is incapable of negotiation, a skill necessary for a U.S President. So much like George Bush, "You are either with me or against me" but from the left window view.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:59 AM
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12. Yep.
And the reason he will never be POTUS.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:28 AM
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2. goofy--he knows the rules and if he wants to play, he needs to follow the rules like everyone else
what a waste of time. just another publicity stunt? annoying and embarrassing.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:28 AM
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3. Had Kucinich endorsed Edwards, you would be singing another tune.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:30 AM
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4. DK has jumped the shark - just drop out.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:39 AM
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5. The Kookster's apparently awaiting word from his interplanetary advisors.
:crazy:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:42 AM
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6. It's pretty wild the way he feels these little rules apply to everyone
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 09:42 AM by Vickers
but him.

Oh well...I'd love him as president, but what the hell.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:44 AM
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7. If you are going to run as a Democrat...then you need to abide by those rules...
And support the nominee if it isn't you...

Otherwise run as an independent..
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:45 AM
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8. I thought Pledging Oaths was something that the Nazi's and
Repugnants did,, what happened to "free will".
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:19 AM
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14. Me too.
I seem to remember loads of laughter and derision when the Republicans did this but now it is OK for us to do it too? Wow. Kinda scary, no, very scary.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:47 AM
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9. It bothers me that alot of people here are okay with this.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 09:49 AM by rucky
Loyalty oaths?! Then taking him off the ballot?

IA & NH debates. MI and FL. Now this: Voters are getting robbed of choice - FOR STUPID REASONS

Why are the two parties in power afraid of Democracy?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:50 AM
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10. Next they will have us Pledge Oaths , when we register to Vote
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:16 AM
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13. does anyone know if this is a new thing for Texas or if they had the same requirement in 04?
The reason I ask is that DK participated in the Texas primary in 04, which makes me wonder whether he agreed to the "support the party candidate" pledge then and, if so, why he won't do so now. Makes me wonder if its really a principled stand or just that he wants to keep his powder dry to support a third party candidate this time around.

For the record, I'm not completely comfortable with "loyalty oaths". However, I see a distinction between requiring someone to sign a pledge as a condition of voting in a party primary (which the repubs briefly tried to do here in Virginia before backing down) and requiring a candidate to sign such a pledge before being allowed on the ballot.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:03 AM
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15. This does give some insight into a few of Kucinich's peculiar ecisions recently.
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crawfish Donating Member (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:14 AM
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16. Hmmm. It is obviously a bad thing...
to have principles and to stand by them.

We must squelch every iota of independence from our candidates. Principles are great and all, but we must get ELECTED. I'm sure the people we're selling out to won't expect our candidates to bend those principles once in office... :eyes:
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:16 PM
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23. Excellent point, crawfish.....
"Principles are great and all, but we must get ELECTED. I'm sure the people we're selling out to won't expect our candidates to bend those principles once in office..."

Can't say it any better than that.


I give Denis a lot of credit for sticking with his principles. Sounds like someone I would like as President.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:15 AM
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17. this isn't breaking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3932608
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:19 AM
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18. Crap, can't see that thread
but I am certain it is just as supportive of principle as this one.

:hi: sniffa

Sign your oath yet?

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 AM
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19. Loyalty Oaths Are For Suckers
i have a new sigline coming. :think:

:hi:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 AM
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20. As stated above
by another poster they are also for Nazis and Republicans. Gotta keep up with the Joneses I guess. Don't want to be left out.

Sounds like a good one.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 AM
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21. i'm taking it out for a test drive
:hi:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:36 AM
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22. Speaks to me! n/t
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