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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:53 AM
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Poll question: If Biden is the dark horse tonight...
If Joe Biden somehow has a second or (more likely) third place showing in Iowa will it:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:54 AM
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1. Won't do him much good.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:54 AM
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2. Why do you think that?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:56 AM
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3. I doubt EDWARDS will get much further than Iowa even if he wins--
something tragic would have to happen to at least one of the frontrunners for Joe to even have a chance to move up to third nationally. I'm being realistic. I like Joe, he's my second choice, but I just don't see it for him. He would make a dandy VP, though.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:59 AM
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5. Thanks wienerdoggie.
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:02 AM by youthere
BTW..I love your screen name. I have a wienerdoggie myself. You don't pee on the carpet when you get nervous do you?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:26 AM
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8. LOL...
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:28 AM by 1corona4u
they all do that I think. I bought my friend a long hair mini Daschund puppy for Xmas, a couple of years ago. Had her flown in from another state, and she was about 18 weeks old, adorable!! Anyway, we call her the pee monger, LOL. She gets so excited when she sees you, she pees. She is really defensive with her cage though. You touch it, she comes after you, and barks like she means it!! Really hysterical.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:41 AM
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15. Ah, submissive urination. My wienerdog did that with my husband--
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 AM by wienerdoggie
all my husband had to do was look at him sternly, and my dog would roll over and wizz. He's better now, but damn, I got tired of cleaning up those puddles.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:22 PM
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19. Border Collies are the same way.
I loved that dog - but he was like a faucet. And a barker, and man did he shed.


RIP Jasper :(
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:30 PM
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20. It's always the most troublesome dogs that steal your heart, I think--
I also have a Weimaraner who is about the most poorly-behaved animal I've ever seen, and he's cost us many headaches and thousands of dollars over the years--but when he goes, there won't be a dry eye in the house. Your Jasper was equally lucky to have a patient and loving owner!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:38 AM
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Well...sometimes...
:hide:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:32 AM
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11. I disagree, WD. If he surprises, he will get more coverage, if only for the "dark
horse" angle. And as often happens, the more people get a chance to hear him, the more their ears perk up and they go "hey, wait a minute -- I like what this guy is saying!".

That's how I see it happening. :hi:
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medicswife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:43 AM
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17. Just being able to be in the ABC debate will do him well.
That will garner more support, Joe is always the strongest in debates.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 10:58 AM
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4. Biden will surprise. Watch, wait, listen.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:24 AM
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7. Who knows what is going to happen tonite?? But I think we all
maybe surprised.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 AM
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6. The whole second tier thing
pisses me off. money is the criteria for selecting that "top tier" and it is the M$M that made it up. is is a sorry state of affairs when the media makes the decision for you. of course no one in the media will admit they choose based on money because they are the beneficiaries of all that cash

the medias role is to broadcast the positions of the candidates equally! not chose for you...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:28 AM
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9. The Second Tier: brought to you by American's MSM
I'd like to slap these dittoheads! Or at least throw a brick at them!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:30 AM
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10. The sad fact of the matter, ,Froward, is the media's role is to show a profit. That's
why this campaign coverage has been so lopsided.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 12:03 PM
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18. Yeah not much profit
endorsing/electing someone NOT in their pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAnl7ybDwBg
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:38 AM
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12. If Joe comes up to a third in this race, I will make it my business,
holding my nose, to listen to Rush. Can you just hear it now???
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:38 AM
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13. I think Dodd is a bigger dark horse today
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:08 PM
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21. Brent -
I would have NO problem with that at all!


Go Joe and Chris!!!!
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:40 AM
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14. I hope Joe Biden makes it into the second tier
with Edwards and Obama.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:41 AM
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16. If Joe finishes 4th, he should count it as a huge win. If Richardson comes in 4th, Joe's in trouble.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 01:09 PM
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22. Unless Biden comes in 3rd :)
Richardson v Biden has been the other big story that the msm has ignored.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 03:46 PM
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23. I agree that Richardson v Biden is a great story neglected. Only one will be invited to the New
Hampshire debate. Both have excellent foreign policy credentials and long resumes of public service. I think Richardson and Biden have cut into each other's base of support and the elimination of one will help the other.
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