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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:29 PM
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I hope this puts to rest the "Harold Ford couldn't win Tennessee so Obama can't win the presidency"
argument.

Obama has proven something important. That white people WILL vote for a black candidate under the right circumstances.

This doesn't mean that Obama will win the nomination or the presidency. But it does mean that he has a chance.

And that may be all he needs.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:31 PM
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1. Harold Ford couldn't win Tennessee....
Because of his scummy family.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:46 PM
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9. I don't know anything about his family but I have heard him speak and he is a scumbag
that guy is just about as bad as Condi and Colon.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:53 PM
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17. The Ford family, aka the "Memphis Mafia"...
Harold was actually conservative enough on some of his positions to appeal to alot of Repubs, but Uncle John, Aunt Ophelia, and others blew his chances.... (Uncle John is fixin' to go to prison. He's a state Senator that got busted in in a Federal bribery sting)

I myself don't like DLCers, but a Democratic majority was on my mind when I voted for Harold. Good thing TN wasn't a deciding factor.....
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 PM
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2. But can Obama win Tennessee?
Tennessee is part of the Old South. Iowa was a free state in the North.

IMHO, Obama will face more problems in Tennessee than in Iowa.

However, it is probably more important to consider how Obama will do in swing states like Ohio, Florida and Colorado than in Tennessee.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:35 PM
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5. Obama could take Western TN, maybe some middle. Edwards
will do well in Eastern TN. Middle TN is the Nashville area, and a huge republican stronghold, but independants and conservative republicans in middle TN could go toward Obama. Either way, I think TN will turn blue in November 08.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:44 PM
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7. That would be excellent. n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 PM
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3. Iowa Is Pretty Darned White
If Obama can win there, he can win in any state that Democrats have a chance of winning.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:33 PM
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4. Tennessee is another animal, entirely. I know, I've lived here
all my life. It will be interesting to see how the local papers and news spin this, and what the talk is as Feb 5th grows closer. I think Edwards will have a better chance in portions of TN than Obama, but it could be close between the two of them. I think, once again, HRC would come in behind both of them.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:35 PM
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6. Jack Cafferty put it well: Obama won in Iowa, which is "as white as the North Pole." NT
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:46 PM
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8. Harold Ford race showed that Obama COULD win nationally
the race in Tennessee, one of the most conservative with an ugly racist campaign aimed at Ford was very close. i was surprised by that.

Obama may not win Tennessee but he may win Arkansas, West Virginia, Virginia .
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:49 PM
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11. What?? Obama would win Arkansas? Huckabee might be an obstacle there.
Don't you think?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:51 PM
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15. well, not if Huck is the nominee, but i think Obama could do well in West Virginia
Virginia, FLORIDA ,OHIO.

but still, my point about Harold Ford's close race shows stands.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:48 PM
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10. If the south has to choose between a Mormon and a black man
:shrug:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:50 PM
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13. ROFLMAO... no one would go to the polls???
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:49 PM
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12. I never heard that quote, but I do believe you're right.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:51 PM
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14. Yep...I remember that being used as to why Barack was not
electable. :eyes:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 11:52 PM
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16. Harold Ford is DINO piece of shit...and a * enabler....THAT'S why he couldn't win...
...
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