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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:05 PM
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DEMOCRATIC DEBATE THREAD
It's starting
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:06 PM
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1. Will this be replayed? n/t
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:06 PM
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2. Starting with question about going after terrorists, in Parkistan.
Obama up.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:08 PM
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3. Obama is doing great. nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:09 PM
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4. Established solid foreign policy / commander-in-chief credibility straight away.
Excellent job.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:10 PM
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5. Here in the Mountain States the Republican Debate is still on. nt
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:11 PM
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6. Go online.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:12 PM
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9. Thanks! nt
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Ineedchange Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:11 PM
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7. You might enjoy this thread better - it fast moving and alive
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:12 PM
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8. Let me just say that everybody looks tired...
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:14 PM
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11. I noticed that right away about Clinton.
And Obama's voice is hoarse.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:20 PM
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18. Chelsea looked good
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:13 PM
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10. out here in Washington state the debates start in another 45 min
but you are saying they are debating already?
WOW that means we will be seeing RECORDING!!!!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:15 PM
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12. You can watch it online right now here:
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:17 PM
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14. RICHARDSON A DISTRACTION!!!
Wasted airtime...leave these debates to the top three.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:19 PM
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17. umm alrighty...
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:28 PM
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33. Oh great, Thanks !!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:16 PM
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13. Hillary reminds us that Clinton missed bin Laden...
Um, not good.

She retracted from her previous attack on Obama's statement.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:17 PM
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Obama reminds everyone on the Iraq war vote in regard to Al Qaeda/Pakistan
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:22 PM
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22. as he should
over and over and over again
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:17 PM
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15. Edwards looks really smug
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:18 PM
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16. Obama is doing good not falling into his "uh, Uh" stutter
nt
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:20 PM
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19. MSM FRAMING!!!!
Bastardized moderation which is right out of the CORPORATIST HANDBOOK!!!!

This Election is about ECONOMICS!!!!

Gibson would have you believe this about TERRORISM, the RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS>

Now do you see why Edwards knows the REAL threat is CORPORATISM!!!!!!!
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:23 PM
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24. DISTRACTION, DISTRACTION< DISTRACTION
Did Hillary pay ABC to ask this question?

I only ask because someone should angrily take issue with the absurdity of positing this as the first question.

DAMN, I hate the F'in Corporate media, owned by the Military-Industrial-Complex.

NEUTER CORPORATIONS NOW!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:21 PM
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21. He's really improved his debating skills.
The substance has always been there. Now, his presentation is excellent...presidential.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:21 PM
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20. hillary is great on policy, a couple others are is vague in comparison.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:23 PM
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23. Richardson is standing up and taking off his pants!
Kidding...

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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:23 PM
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25. SICK of foreign policy
they all agree



MOVE ON
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:24 PM
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29. MSM CORPORATISM AT WORK!!!
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:30 PM
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36. obamacare:he cant even defend it
not his finest moment

i dont think he believes in it
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:24 PM
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26. Edwards seems on top of his game -nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:24 PM
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27. Jaguars lead the Steelers 21-7 half way thru second quarter
I suppose like most Americans, I am watching the playoffs. I dare not change the channel since everyone here is quite happy watching the game and munching down. I got my laptop literally on my lap, and I am very thankful for the folks in DU for keeping a running account of the debate for us "football widows."

:-)
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:24 PM
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28. Richardson: "I will start negotiations with the Soviet Union." Really, big guy?
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:26 PM
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30. Did he really say "Soviet Union"??? -nt
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:27 PM
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32. Yep.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:30 PM
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35. YOU FORGOT ABOUT POLAND
nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:49 PM
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66. Yeap. I caught that too...
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:27 PM
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31. You are the Status Quo, Hillary
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:29 PM
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34. Hillary owned Obama on his flip-flops
This is probably the first time most people have heard about Obama's record.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:31 PM
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38. You must not have heard Obama's response
nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:33 PM
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42. Could you tell me?
I'm not watching but I'd like to know? :)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:34 PM
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43. I heard it!
And he's absolutely right,
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:32 PM
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39. As a JRE supporter, I agree with you
her approach is very clear on this. But Obama is also clarifying his plans a bit.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:34 PM
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44. If lying about Obama's record is "owning", then sure...
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:37 PM
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54. oh yea, like how she made things up
about calling Edwards unelectable
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:31 PM
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37. Hilly being disingenuous, but health care needs to be universal.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:32 PM
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40. This is a real debate. n/t
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CATagious Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:34 PM
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45. i am loving this format...
and I am loving Obama and Edwards. Hilary is getting on my nerves by going on the attack already and interrupting Obama.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:33 PM
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41. Obama delivers a few blows at Hillary whose attacks fall flat
He tells her basically that she is a liar on what he said about Edwards' "unelectibility". He takes her to task for distorting his record.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:42 PM
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59. delete
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 09:43 PM by depakid
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 PM
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46. Edwards trying to label HRC is status quo and no longer the leader
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 PM
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48. HRC doing a good job spelling out the work she's done on health care
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 PM
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47. WOW Edwards it her hard
Status QUO
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 PM
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49. Edwards: "I didn't hear these kind of attacks when she was ahead"...
Smack. Down, John.

She is now unglued.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:36 PM
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50. Hillary is FIRED UP!!! Yeah, BABY!!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:36 PM
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51. Hilary IMPLODING. Raising voice
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:36 PM
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52. This is GOOD! Hillary is pissed. Attacking everyone. Edwards getting knives
pretty much slaps Hillary
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:37 PM
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53. GIVE'EM HELL HILL n/t
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:37 PM
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55. Pass the crack, this fucking debacle is putting me to sleep
Seriously, this is one of the worst "debates" I've seen in many a year.
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frankenforpres Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:38 PM
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57. true, no UFO talk. n/t
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 PM
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63. I'll second that nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:38 PM
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56. Tag Team Effort by Obama and Edwards is ruining Hillary
She is going up in flames.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:41 PM
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58. Hillary went a little overboard there. She looked angry and you can't do that.
Thats going to hurt her.
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 PM
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60. Richardson, just withdraw already
This guy is wasting everyone's time.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 PM
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61. I actually think Richardson came out ahead on the exchange between Clinton and Edwards
nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 PM
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62. The surge is working meme
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 09:45 PM by depakid
When are the Dems going to learn to STOP letting media whores open their fat mouths and editorialize during these debates....
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:46 PM
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64. Fuck you Charlie Gibson! Dick Head! nt
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:48 PM
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65. The Surge question
Hillary seems tired on the question. Richardson takes it better with the casualties and the full report card. Obama repeats his reason on not being for the war from the start. He has a great point about the returning to 2006 levels.

I do wish the candidates would talk about how casualty descriptions changed (shot in the front of the head and car bomb damage is not considered sectarian violence now)...

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:52 PM
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67. Richardson must realize it's IMPOSSIBLE to get all the troops out within a year
It would kill more troops if you tried to have them all leave within a year. It would take at least two years at best. There is a LOT of stuff there and a lot of people who'd love to shoot at them as they tried to leave.

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:59 PM
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68. Who goes FIRST? R's or Ds'?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:01 PM
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69. Hillary's new "change" meme as through 35 years of experience is flat
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:13 PM
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70. John Edwards just won the debate. That was awesome! nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:16 PM
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71. Edwards has done a great job
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:19 PM
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74. Edwards is smart.
In the beginning of the debate Hillary tried to side with Edwards against Obama but Edwards didn't take the bait. Instead he turned the tables on Hillary and she is totally unprepared.

Smart move by Edwards.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:20 PM
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75. I'm an Obama fan but Edwards has done better this debate than I've seen JE before
he's done well. I'm glad Obama is doing good too. Easy with Hillary melting down I know...
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:25 PM
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77. I am hoping for an Obama/Edwards ticket
Edwards could really help Obama with that kind of fire on the stump.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:18 PM
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72. Hillary opened up a can of worms with bills not passed
She took Edwards to task for a bill that didn't get passed. What bills has she passed?

ZERO.


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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:19 PM
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73. Gibson is a dick. Thought his "lobbyist can pay for food standing up"
WTF? Giving lawmaker candy is a hell of a lot different than a 12 course lobster deal worth upwards of $100. Stop the posing and ask real questions.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:22 PM
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76. Obama rambling now.
Getting people involved is the solution?
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:27 PM
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78. Obama's looking really beat.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:28 PM
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79. Are the kids who'll be voting in NH watching this debate? n/t
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:41 PM
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80. I must say
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 10:42 PM by balantz
I think Mr. Edwards did very well tonight.

:kick:
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