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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:16 PM
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I have to say this - that when Edwards talks about that girl that died waiting fo liver transplant -
It is no different than when the repigs talked about Terri Schiavo.

They are both used an unfortunate situation to gain political points.

Flame away - but that is how I feel.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:16 PM
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1. It is an anecdote used to make a larger, important point
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:17 PM
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2. Just as they did.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:17 PM
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3. It is certainly different. The Republicans were attempting to intervene in a private decision.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:19 PM
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6. for political gain.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:21 PM
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9. Not all political gain is equal. There's a stark difference between
pimping medical tragedy for political gain and creating medical tragedy for political gain.
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:18 PM
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4. I agree...and it's a field that he worked in...
...not cool.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:24 PM
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I don't work in the transplant field, nor do I work in the medical
field, but I have seven sister/husband who do, and I'm a third generation family member who has seen first hand those waiting for health care and dying. Believe me you don't have to be in the field to be impacted enough by the abuse of our medical crises to weigh in on it. I applaud John Edwards for having the courage to talk about these very painful, but very real issues that impact a huge majority of people.
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:25 PM
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17. I meant the trial lawyer thing...
...not cool.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:19 PM
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5. He uses his son's death, his wife's cancer, and this girl's death with calculated coldness.
It's quite disconcerting.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:21 PM
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10. What. The, Eff?
We see what we want to see, I guess.
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KingofNewOrleans Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:25 PM
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18. Yes, he planned it all
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farmboy Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:33 PM
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23. He speaks the truth about life, the reality, ugly and pretty. Your "caluclated coldness" just may be
Edwards' "passion for the American people over the corporate interests that infiltrate every level of government and destroy the dreams of average Americans every day." Just saying...
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:34 PM
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24. I think it is sincere, loving, and effective. Screw the orivate purveyors of misery for profit. They
are worse than drug dealers and should be criminally charged not rewarded with multmillion dollar salaries.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:41 PM
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25. Don't be so idiotic.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:42 PM
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26. This Presidnetial Candidate has brought to the discussion many
experiences that have impacted his life. Unfortunately he has been greatly impacted by the death of his son, and one never forgets those people whom they love. The loss of a child is something that he reaches out to those whom also grieve. How nice to have a voice for those who don't. You might want to reconsider your concern. I don't know if you're a parent, aunt, uncle, but life has a way of changing you.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:20 PM
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7. It is different.
Terry Schiavo was a vegetable with no chance of recovery. That little girl might have lived a long life if her insurance company weren't so goddamned greedy. The two situations couldn't be more different. I mean, you've just compared Edwards analogy as being no different than analogy's used by people who use box turtle's to argue against gay marriage.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:20 PM
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8. He just did it again. Does her family want her to be the poster child for healthcare?
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KingofNewOrleans Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:24 PM
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16. I bet her family wants her to be alive
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:27 PM
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20. I know they do.
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Midwestern Democrat Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:08 PM
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27. Well, they're joining him on the campaign trail....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3968267
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:21 PM
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11. He's practiced at this kind of dramatic courtroom delivery.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:22 PM
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12. It is absolutely different -- not even close to the Schiavo situation.
He brought it up as an example of how the current health care system is so controlled by insurance companies trying to make a profit that without coverage people die. This is real and it's serious. The Schiavo case involved politicians attempting to intervene in somebody else's personal medical decisions in order to pander to extremist right-wing Christians. There is no comparison at all.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:22 PM
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13. I don't agree
The repigs got Congress to come back from vacation to vote on Terri Schiavo. They MADE her a political issue, a HUGE political issue, driven by their sick "pro-life" agenda. It was a very different situation.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:23 PM
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14. You and I think alike...so think Hillary. lol
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:24 PM
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15. if her family had a problem
with it he would not mention her name.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:26 PM
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19. I'm never comfortable with that. Romney has an ad in NH doing the same thing.
Maybe it's my own cynicism, but I just don't feel right with that kind of thing.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:28 PM
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21. Agreed
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:32 PM
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22. This girl was denied medical treatment that may have cured her. Big difference.
If that were my child I would ask Edwards to use it to get medical care for others in the same situation.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:09 PM
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28. "They are both used an unfortunate situation to gain political points." Exactly.
It's the "bloody shirt" ploy.
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