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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:10 AM
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Obama in a barber shop acting like a regular guy
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:11 AM by bigdarryl
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:12 AM
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1. Well isn't he or is he a saint that the press is promoting him as.
after all St. Obama is a far stretch even for the press.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:14 AM
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2. His miracle plan will be unveiled after the nomination
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:14 AM
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3. But he's not a regular guy, is he?
He has all that corporate money in his campaign coffer. And those corporations are going to expect favors in return for that money.

How can Barack bring about change when he's indebted to the same entites that Bush has been indebted to?

Seriously, I'd like an answer. Those lobbyists and corporations are going to expect something in return for that money, and it won't be taking a hit on their bottom line for the benefit of the American people. :(
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:19 AM
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5. He's just like Joe Blo
struggling to make ends meet and wondering how in the hell his kids are gonna go to state college.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:21 AM
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6. And the trial lawyers aren't going
to expect something in return from John Edwards? Don't act like he's some saint
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:28 AM
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10. Edwards represented people screwed by the corporations

So, stop siding with the corporations against an attorney who fought for the little guy.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:27 AM
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9. Obama is such an obvious corporatist. He is going to be a HUGE disappointment

For his disciples, if he gets the Presidency.

Nuclear power money, homophobe reps at campaign events, the worst of all dem plans for health insurance coverage, a wimpy
'lets work together with psychos who don't live in reality' mentality. And, just too green.

He is a snakeoil salesman. But, perhaps, he is precisely what America needs. If the dems ascend to three branch rule & the country continues to dive into third world status, perhaps we will become ready for a true candidate of change.

A depression with rolling blackouts & half the nation uninsured will probably kick it over the edge for a new type of candidate who is not judged on hair.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:34 AM
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13. Edwards is a regular guy now?
He's got a million dollars for every year of his life. How can John bring change when he has much of his wealth sunk into hedge funds? When did he ever take a hit on the bottom line?



http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/moneymag/0712/gallery.candidates.moneymag/2.html

I'd rather have a Chicago South Side Populist than a Wall Street Populist any day.

I'd rather have a candidate who invests ethically even if he makes less money at it.



http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/moneymag/0712/gallery.candidates.moneymag/5.html


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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:00 AM
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17. I really don't see how either of them manages to scrape by.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 11:01 AM by Benhurst
:rofl:

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:15 PM
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18. You didn't answer my question. And your attempt to deflect attention away from the question
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 04:16 PM by AndyA
and spin it against another candidate has failed.

Answer the question about Obama.

To address your concerns about Edwards, he has divested himself of a lot of the Fortress investments, in fact he started a fund to help those in New Orleans who lost their homes to Hurricane Katrina with part of it. He gave away 100% of his book advance to charities like Habitat for Humanity and to a charity that pays for underprivileged kids to go to college.

He is also going to address the favorable tax treatment hedge fund executives receive if he becomes President, as well as address their lending practices, and he's gone on record as stating such.

Do you want me to post graphs of how much Obama is taking from lobbyists and PACs?

But behind Obama's campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth. A Globe review of Obama's campaign finance records shows that he collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs as a state legislator in Illinois, a US senator, and a presidential aspirant.

In Obama's eight years in the Illinois Senate, from 1996 to 2004, almost two-thirds of the money he raised for his campaigns -- $296,000 of $461,000 -- came from PACs, corporate contributions, or unions, according to Illinois Board of Elections records. He tapped financial services firms, real estate developers, healthcare providers, oil companies, and many other corporate interests, the records show.

Obama's US Senate campaign committee, starting with his successful run in 2004, has collected $128,000 from lobbyists and $1.3 million from PACs, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit organization that tracks money in politics. His $1.3 million from PACs represents 8 percent of what he has raised overall. Clinton's Senate committee, by comparison, has raised $3 million from PACs, 4 percent of her total amount raised, the group said.

In addition, Obama's own federal PAC, Hopefund, took in $115,000 from 56 PACs in the 2005-2006 election cycle out of $4.4 million the PAC raised, according to CQ MoneyLine, which collects Federal Election Commission data. Obama then used those PAC contributions -- including thousands from defense contractors, law firms, and the securities and insurance industries -- to build support for his presidential run by making donations to Democratic Party organizations and candidates around the country.

Source: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/09/pacs_and_lobbyists_aided_obamas_rise/


Gosh, it sounds to me like Obama is just a big hypocrite. Just what we need in Washington...more of the same! :eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:34 PM
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20. How can JE represent us when a third of his money comes
from one special interest group? And how about all those corporate dollars lining his personal pockets. And when did he ever fight for anything beyond his Patient's bill of rights and a fucking WAR?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:16 AM
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4. "Acting like a regular guy"?
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:19 AM by Benhurst
I thought he was one.

If he's not, then I'll have to reconsider whether or not I'll support him even if he gets the nomination.

Restore the Republic! Enough of all the royalist/celebrity nonsense. I want a president, not a king or a superstar.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:24 AM
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7. Did he talk about the price of arugula?
nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:46 AM
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16. ummmmm...wrong crowd
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:25 AM
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8. I love how his detractors can't wait to piss all over any positive Obama threads
:kick:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:31 AM
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12. I Don't See The Utility Either
This board is so messed up...
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:40 AM
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14. Saying Obama is "acting " like a regular guy in a barbar shop
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 11:17 AM by Benhurst
is hardly a positive post from my perspective.

From what I've seen of him, I have always assumed he is a regular guy, and would not have to pretend to be one to cater to the peasants.

After twelve years of under the rule of the Bush Family, I'm tired of privileged politicians acting like regular guys during elections, pandering to the great unwashed masses for votes, only to go on to screw them once elected.

Obama does not have to act like a regular guy. Despite his excellent educational credentials and financial success, he is one.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:29 AM
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11. I like Mrs. Burke
the kind of supporter every candidate hopes to have. :-)
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:45 AM
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15. Is it a coincidence that they had made a shindig out of Edward's expensive hair-cut?
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:49 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
I said this was no time for the voters to be going to San Francisco with flowers in their hair (by following this Pied Piper), but with Obama with a short back and sides, into the bargain....?

Still, Edwards, is evidently a very astute strategist, and by preferring graciousness to gratuitous acrimony towards Obama, appears to have emphasised Clinton's marginalisation and rejection. That must have been one of the last things the corporatist power-brokers and their MSM wanted, to fight on a single front. They had wanted to be the ones to divide and rule!
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:18 PM
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19. When does he go to Disneyland?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:36 PM
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21. After he wins the nomination.......
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:41 PM
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22. This is great
"We can't just go with what has traditionally been laid out for us."

Imagine what the mood is now that he is starting to WIN.

Yeah.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:49 PM
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23. "acting" like a regular guy
about sums it up for me
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