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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:47 AM
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Buchanan just said "I know what's coming Eleanor" about Obama
I'm watching McLaughlin. Eleanor Clift said that "there will still be a gut check with Obama, and don't write Hillary off yet." Buchanan said coyly that "I know what's coming Eleanor" with a sly grin. What was that all about?
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:48 AM
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1. buchanan knows how insidious the racial element to the campaign will become
and he's probably salivating at the prospects.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:48 AM
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2. Because he won once and experienced what happens after you win?
Just guessing.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:09 PM
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20. You may be right. nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:49 AM
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3. They are rooting for Hillary. That's what's happening.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:54 AM
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9. Buchanan has been cheerleading for Hillary for a while now.
So I agree.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 AM
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12. Eleanor has spoken fondly of Obama, so "they" wouldn't include her. n/t
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 AM
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15. Yep at every turn this Pat Buchannon always has something negitive to say about Obama in favor of...
Hillary this guy is a peice of work. what is puzzling to me is this guy is on the wrong side of democrat policies why is he so in favor of Hillary
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:03 PM
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That is troubling.
I know how most Dems listen and do what Pat says.
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beberocks Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:50 AM
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4. IMO it will be about Obama drug use
It has been completely ignored by the media, and before you flame me, read Obama's book. I don't think America is ready for someone who used coke on a regular basis.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:51 AM
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5. You mean like the current president? Bush? -eom
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forsberg Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:29 PM
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43. Bush's cronies are better at covering it up
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:50 PM
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55. Not only are Bushies better at covering it up
They deny that it ever happened. 100% or Republicans and probably over 50% of Democrats don't believe it did. They figure it's just a "lie" promulgated by us Bush-haters. Since the media will not investigate, and neither Gore nor Bush were willing to bring it up, they remain in denial.

Obama otoh admits he used. Most people will probably give him points for being honest, but even if they "forgive" him, they won't necessarily vote for him for president. If anything, it'll give 'em "a pass" for their latent racism: "Hey, I'm not against him because he's black; it's because he used to be a druggie."
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:52 AM
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6. After 8 years of w? Yer funny.
:rofl:
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:52 AM
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7. You mean America isn't ready for someone who regularly used cocaine ...
and isn't George Bush?
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:25 PM
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27. I think the thing with Bush
Is his drug use didn't come out till the second race, and he denied it. Now we all know how republicans are. The bought into all of Bush's lies, and the bought into this one. That along with the "fear" tactics they used, and questionable voting machines, got him elected. Obama has admitted it, and I am willing to bet that the repugs have a lot of stuff on "all" of the dem candidates.

I think they still want Clinton because they can rally their base with her running, so they may come out with something to help her.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:53 AM
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8. It has been ignored, because it's not news.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 AM
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13. Yeah, they tried to sell that, and nobody bought it.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:17 PM
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22. They didn't buy it because...
Among democrats trashing Hillary is first priority. Why criticize Obama's drug use when you can criticize Hillary for laughing too loudly. Presented by the republicans in the general, Obama's youthful indescretions will be blasted so loudly that it'll take Britney out of the news.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:55 AM
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10. Iowa was ready for it.
:shrug:
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:55 AM
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11. They elected GWB twice nt
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:22 PM
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25. Right...
I won't say Bush was elected twice. Let's say they voted for him in masses twice because they liked him...more than Gore and more than Kerry. And his past was history, not big deal. I'm fine with Obama winning the nom but I hope it isn't because we like him. We need more than "like" and his drug use needs to be dealt with my him in an honest way.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:24 PM
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26. More people voted for Gore than for bush.
bush was installed by the USSC the first time around.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:33 PM
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46. Thanks for your concern. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:24 PM
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40. "They" didn't elect him.
bushits got their evil asses in there twice.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 AM
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14. exactly..."2 years in a blur" Obama stated.
:shrug:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:13 PM
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21. Many young people spend years in a blur, and I imagine
more than one or two of us here have done so as well. Now if he were still living in a blur or learned nothing from his experience, the smartassed shrug is justified. I daresay that the man has accomplished more in his life that most people in this forum will ever think of accomplishing.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:40 PM
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49. it's not how I feel..I'm the last to make judgement..
It's what the RW and MSM PLAN....PLAN to do with that and a whole host of other issues Obama has never really taken heat for...OUR heat is much more civil.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:12 PM
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53. I wonder how many times Hill was with Bill when he
was not inhaling. Anyone ever ask her?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 03:56 PM
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54. lol..
:shrug:
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:22 PM
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39. Totally Disagree...
I think a big majority of this country has tried drugs.. and Obama did it when he was a teenager. He gets the "exempt" card because he did something no other candidate has done regarding this...

HE WAS HONEST ABOUT IT! It's hard to trash someone, when they've already talked about the trash themselves.. it just makes you look caddy.

Obama is very smart about this.. he throws out all skeletons before anyone else can do it for him.. and probably actually got some positive bounce for actually being "honest & transparent". Not your typical politician indeed!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:03 PM
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58. Obama already admitted everything he did. Iowa didn't care.
And neither will the rest of the country.

What they do care about are sleazy campaign tactics designed to insinuate that someone was a drug dealer.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:57 AM
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16. Race
Willie Horton returns via the disciple of Lee Atwater.

Memo to Republicans - what goes around coes around.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:58 AM
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17. I'd like to know when it's coming and who's delivering it. eom
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:58 AM
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18. We the People 'are' the backbone and John Edwards knows it.
He came from a humble background exactly like mine. I was born 15 miles from where he was born. The Republicans are breaking the backbone of the country and the Democrats must come to it's aid or another break away party will take over. The Whigs and the Torries, Democrats and Republicans, everything changes and evolves. :dem:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:06 PM
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19. Another repuke smear campaign. What else is new? nt
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:20 PM
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23. And John Edwards will be happy to have Obamamaniacs support once the smear works!
hahaha
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:26 PM
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28. Keep dreaming.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:28 PM
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29. Much better than waking up with President Obama...err Huckabee
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 12:29 PM by MalloyLiberal
scary
We know Obama won't win
Yes we'll have a lot of turnout
But the right wingers will turn out and vote Huckabee
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:50 PM
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50. Are you kidding?
Huckabee will lose all independents with his "subserviant women" talk. He'll probably also lose the immigration types. He'll hold the religious types and get swamped.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:29 PM
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31. continue in your delusions
They'll be smashed on Tuesday and further smashed in SC and on Super Tuesday, it'll all be over- for you EdWARdians.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:35 PM
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32. Then good luck with President Huckabee
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:50 PM
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33. Oh, don't worry. Obama will beat Huckabee
by even larger margins than he's beating Edwards.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:11 PM
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35. you wish. Huckabee is already adopting 'change'
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:18 PM
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37. Huckabee isn't going anywhere. Wait until the 23% tax stuff hit the fan.
He's toast.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:21 PM
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38. Keep wishing.
He isn't going anywhere.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:30 PM
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44. Exactly, he isn't going anywhere.
He's about to finish third in NH after McCain and Romney, his tax plan is insane (unless you think people in the US will agree with a 23% Fed tax tacked onto whatever state taxes already exist), and letting murderers out of jail tends to go over like a fire at an orphanage.

It's funny you keep saying "you wish" to people when it's beyond obvious based on your own statements of rooting for smears to work who is doing the wishing here. If you have a point beyond that try making it, because as it stands you have nothing except your own desire to see smears work against a Democrat, and that says volumes about you.
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:25 PM
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41. Not to mention the 12 murderers he let out of jail....
Followed by yet another murder committed by one of them. Furthermore the pukes are not inspired by him. Theyed be more inspired to vote in the GE if Hillary was the nominee.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:15 PM
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51. He won't. imo
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:17 PM
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36. Good to see you rooting for smears! Very typical of your kind of "liberal".
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 01:17 PM by Forkboy
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:27 PM
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42. That's stupid..
I like Edwards and Obama and fuck the smears.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:31 PM
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45. Don't you know, smears rock, dude!
;)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:37 PM
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48. Jeeze! Some people's
children!
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:21 PM
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24. The only thing that could stop Obama right now...
... would be something involving Chris Hansen.

People want hope. People want change. People want a Democrat in office. We'll overlook things that may have shot candidates down in the past. We don't want politics as usual, and the usual politics of personal destruction won't cut it with us.
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:08 PM
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59. Sadly, I fear you're right.
We're ready to hurl ourselves over the cliff to get it, too,
and deal with the consequences down the line. I'm really glad it's a
Democrat that we're leeping after.

And there is always HOPE.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:28 PM
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30. He meant the same thing as Russert, Tweety, & the others are saying
Now that Obama is seen as the one to beat as far as Democrats, the media will be looking for all kinds of things to "vet" him about. They're implying that he's still realtively unknown because of his fast rise to stardom and how the media hasn't taken the time to vet him YET. They're pretty much saying that what's good for the other candidates is good for Obama.
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chapel hill dem Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:01 PM
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34. Every Republican I know backs Sen. Clinton. They can't wait to bring
back the good old days of Clinton-bashing. It is kinda like here in NC when all of the conservatives registered as Democrats (AKA "Jessecrats") and voted for Harvey Gantt, the black mayor of Charlotte, in the senatorial primary. Jesse Helms thought Gantt was the easiest to beat, so his folks set up Gantt. Guess what -- Jesse won.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:36 PM
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47. So a lot of the pukeheads
in North Carolina want hillary to get the nom cause they think that will help them get their slimey hypocritcal asshole in the oval office? Is that about right?

Too bad our country as a whole suffers so much from all this political manuevering from people who don't really have a fucking clue.

Anyway..I don't want hillary to get the nom because I think she'll lose it's because I don't want her anywhere near our oval office, either.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:29 PM
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52. You got that right
Surfermaw..N.C....but the machine didn't stop Edwards and the Helm's machine is still at work in N.C
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:57 PM
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56. Polling shows Republicans overwhelmingly prefer Obama
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:01 PM
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57. Somehow, I don't think that this will be something about his teenage years that's already out there.
That just won't get much traction, especially among Dems.

Whatever it is will be something that is not widely known, is more recent and will upset Dems as well as Indies and Pubbies.

I have no inside info, just too many years of watching Pattie and the Pubbies.
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