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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:59 AM
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Anyone who criticizes Hillary is sexist.
Let's be honest here, folks. Anyone who dislikes, disagrees with, does not trust, or even so much as does not pay rapt attention to Hillary on any subject, for any reason, must be sexist. In fact, anyone here who dislikes or disagrees with any woman within a five-mile radius is probably a closet wife-beater and longs to return to the days when women made sure they didn't have to "be told twice" about any particular issue.

Damn woman-haters.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:00 PM
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1. Welcome to DU
I predict big things from this thread. :popcorn:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:03 PM
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8. LOL, sniffa!
Yep, said poster couldn't wait to get enough posts to start a flamefest.

Kind of amateur, but I do like the faux hurt, "what me sexist" POV. Especially the "wife beater" part. :-) MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:00 PM
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2. Welcome to DU. Nice broadbrush there.
MKJ
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:01 PM
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3. being a GOP tool? being biased? being a Clinton hater? being less informed? -so many choices besides
sexist or women hater
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:23 PM
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22. Or just thinking someone else could do a better job n/t
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:01 PM
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4. Begone MRA. IBTL. nt
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:02 PM
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5. That's one way to trivialize
an important issue.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:09 PM
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13. OP seems enamored of domestic abuse, ne c'est pas?
MKJ
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:15 PM
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15. Us damned womens
and our damned whining. :eyes:
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:22 PM
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17. Well, obviously. After all, I disagree with Hillary in several areas.
I'm pretty sure that not only makes me a domestic abuser (that's right, I have a painful addiction to domestics), but a sexual harasser, good ol' boy, and chauvinist pig, too. In fact, I've heard that every time I dislike something Hillary says, an angel loses its wings and goes home to drunkenly blame/beat its wife for it.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:23 PM
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21. It seems to be a recurrent theme, here. You've certainly expanded on the scenario.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 12:24 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
You've captured a vaguely threatening tone quite nicely. You sound like a peach.

MKJ
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:30 PM
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29. You know, I DO have to hand it to you.
I start a thread devoted to mocking those who use the term "sexist" as a knee-jerk reaction to something they don't like, and you've somehow managed to accuse me of being sexist for it.

I underestimated you folks. Well done.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:21 PM
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16. It IS an important issue
However, it's also a cheap way to slander anyone who doesn't support Hillary. I've been accused of sexism twice here, simply for not supporting HRC.

There's a difference between not supporting Hillary for sexist reasons (which I agree would be a bad thing) and not supporting her for entirely legitimate reasons (i.e. you disagree with her policies, record or whatever). Let's try not to confuse the two.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:23 PM
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20. Well I'd have to see the posts you're
referring to, but I agree that it's a term, like racism, that shouldn't be abused.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:02 PM
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6. I'm not picky ...I just hate them all.
:sarcasm:
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:02 PM
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7. Anyone who criticizes Obama is unhip and uncool and racist?
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:03 PM
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9. I'm not sexist..
I just don't like her hair color... ;)
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:12 PM
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14. And Edwards Hated That Dress
Seriously, who wears a coral colored dress to a debate. That's a faux pas waiting to happen. Kudos to Edwards for being metrosexual enough to point it out on national tv.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:04 PM
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10. This has not stopped anyone.
Did you know that the Clintons and GOP cannot attack Obama because
NBC and MSNBC will get them:

Welcome aboard. It really can be fun here.



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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:04 PM
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11. ROFLMAO.......Welcome to DU!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:07 PM
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12. Welcome to DU.
I'm going to assume you're talking to me and you think you're funny.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:22 PM
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18. Not at all. Criticize each candidate on the issues, and records. Would help us keep from making
the mistake Bush voters made. Gore was criticized and dumped on for what her wore, how he talked, his supposed woodiness. Bush was praised for his friendliness, likeability, humor, charm, Millions of people voted on perceived personal characteristics and we have a country almost in ruins in just 8 years.

Can we afford another 4 years like the last 8?

If we stick to substance and we can learn what we need to know in order to make a decision.

From where are the candidates getting their contributions? That would make an excellent anaysis and let us know to whom they might be beholden.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:22 PM
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19. This is sarcasm, right?
Sad comment about the level of political debate these days is the fact that legitimate political opinions sound like they come from The Daily Show.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:27 PM
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24. That's an odd way to put it...
...considering that TDS has done a much better job of pointing out the hypocrisies of the Bush administration than any show or network devoted to "serious political analysis" over the past eight years.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:31 PM
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30. That's my point
Politics has become self-satirising. The seemingly legitimate opinions presented by the Bush admin and their enablers are more surreal than anything a satirist could come up with.

I mean, "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully", how can a comedian compete with that?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:25 PM
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23. hehe i wanna know
if the so called "feminists" also think its sexist to vote for clinton strictly because she is a women.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:27 PM
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26. Not THIS "so called feminist". Although, if you guys keep attacking her with "wife beating"
references, that may make me vote for her just to piss y'all off! MKJ
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:37 PM
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31. hay it was an honest question
because i am sure that alot of people hype her up in their own minds just because of the novelty of voting for a women or because of the historic moment in their minds of the first women POTUS. it is not entirely out of line for me to make this assumption especially since the hill crowd is going nuts pointing fingers and calling names. I think that voting for clinton because she is a women is just as sexist as not voting for her strictly because she is a women.

However i think their are way more of the former then the latter.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:50 PM
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33. It was and for me it's a head/heart thing.
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 12:58 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
I disagree with several key positions of hers, the unapologetic IWR vote topping the list. However, she has been consistently supportive of those issues which are considered women's issues.

I'm leaning very much toward Edwards at this point, whom I believe is supportive of those issues, as well, and in addition is a strong labor advocate, which is extremely important to me. Yet, when I see Sen Clinton attacked and none too subtle sexism used to bolster the attacks, my "heart" kicks in, having dealt with misogyny in my personal and professional life, almost daily.

Seeing Sen Clinton stand up for herself against the "good old boy" kind of attacks to which she is being subjected inspires me to root for her.

I doubt very much that I am the only American woman who feels this way.

Whether that translates into my support for her during the primary is doubtful, but I'm not denying that it's a factor.

MKJ
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:27 PM
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25. Go hope and change
yourself! :shrug:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:28 PM
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27. BS! There are plenty of good reasons to criticize her that have nothing to do
with "plates flying in the Oval Office". The fabrication about last night's "moment" was sexist. Most of the other stuff I read about her is legit.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:30 PM
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28. May be sexism, but Freud suggests most anger comes from hatred of one's mother.....
Maybe hatred or any antipathy for women comes from abuse by mean mothers or step-mothers.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:39 PM
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32. Did you come here from the...
All or nothing Bush camp?

Criticizing one of our own, a democrat, is generally totally different than criticizing Bush or the republican candidates. Those who criticize Hillary with the same venom that should be reserved for republicans only, ARE being sexist and probably have deep psychological issues that they need to address before they enter the voting booth.

We have a great line up of candidates. But none are perfect. They all deserve some criticism. But the kind of criticism that has been displayed toward Hillary over incidental and trivial things is over the top and vicious. There has also been a clear double standard. When Hillary criticizes Obama, she is being mean spirited and petty. When he does it it's smart politics.

Some here have even gone over to freeperville for ammunition towards Hillary.
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FlyingTiger Donating Member (340 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 01:42 PM
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35. Do you even read what you write?
"Those who criticize Hillary with the same venom that should be reserved for republicans only, ARE being sexist"

That's an absolutely astounding conclusion to draw. I guess everyone who criticizes Obama is a racist, and everyone who criticizes Edwards hates redheads. Hell, while we're making baseless accusations, I suppose that this site is full of people who don't actually have any legitimate reason to dislike Bush, they're all just senselessly biased against Texans.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 12:52 PM
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34. Nice strawman you got there.
:eyes:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 02:09 PM
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36. Anyone who doesn't like Obama
is a racist.
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