Al Giordano: Kerry to Endorse Obama

Oh well. Don't tase me, Kerry! I support John Edwards, and think he should have been the nominee, not a washed-up flip flopper like yourself!

And if Gore supports Obama, well, guess we'll know he still loves his former adviser, Donna Brazille, who is supporting Obama.

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=115

EDIT: ADDITIONAL LINK



http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Morning_news_Bill_Bradley.html

"The Field has learned that the Obama campaign has at least one of those “big three” endorsements - yes, stay calm, I’ll tell you which in a moment if you haven’t figured it out already - fired up and ready to go, but apparently feels it doesn’t need to roll the big guns out in order to win New Hampshire.

The Iowa victory, in fact, provoked a traffic jam of national Democratic party leaders and politicians that have phoned in to jump on the Obama bandwagon. At this point there are so many piled up in the in-box that it’s a logistical nightmare to schedule the timing of the endorsements. Starting yesterday with Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle and today spinning Bradley’s three-point shot, the coalescing of a new Democratic coalition has begun to fall like droplets of Chinese water torture aimed at the morale of the Clinton organization.

If Obama wins New Hampshire, look for one or more to soon test the “it’s time for all of us to unite behind our party’s eventual nominee” trial balloon. Pressure on Clinton to drop out of the race before February 5th will be intense, including from within the New York state Democrats.

On the other hand, part of the delay may be that, with John Kerry’s coming Obama endorsement (you heard it here first on The Field), the Obama campaign may want to simultaneously send out a fund appeal to his three-million-strong fundraising list from 2004. And that takes a bit longer to stamp and lick all those envelopes than simply calling a press conference.

It makes perfect sense that Kerry will back Obama. After all, he gets most of the credit for “discovering” the young talent and tapping him to give the keynote address at the ‘04 Democratic National Convention, the speech that launched a thousand ships.

Posted on January 6th, 2008 by Al Giordano
Filed under: New Hampshire Primary "

Is Kerry popular in NH? Will this turn on Independents?

Gore doesn't want to be with a "loser" like Howard Dean.

He spoken about it in the campaign, but please list some accomplishment(legislative, business or personal) or long term affililiations with the cause.

That doesn't stop his supporters from repeating such nonsense.

Dude, put the crack pipe down and step AWAY from the keyboard.

it isn't funny. Your hate for Barack is getting old and borders on pathetic

it's a legitimate question if his endorsement in NH is a big plus. Frankly, he's not a beloved figure.

BTW I'm thrilled that Obama is beating Hillary. I'm more anti-Clinton than anything.

It was for the person who claimed Edwards has led on Global Warming

He is the Senator from next door (the large cities and towns of southern NH are like suburbs of Boston, practically). He won there in 2004.

Bill Bradley, who is also rumored to be endorsing, was also popular there: he gave Gore his only real trouble there in 2000.

Both are considered liberal favorites.

on Nov2, 2004 and there were a lot of screaming supporters(est 15,000) listening to Kerry and Tom Werner. I couldn't even see Kerry but I saw Marvin Nicholson:)

It means something to me that Kerry is endorsing Obama because I've come to like Kerry even more after everything that went down. Sure I wanted Kerry in..but, it is what it is and this country needed 8 years of nightmare for this to happen.

excited to see Bruce Hornsby than I was Kerry - though I'm a big supporter:-)

I don't know what to think of this endorsement, I'm not an Obama fan :-(

and it was a vote given by many who knew his record for years - they weren't voting blind. He also did a lot to help NH in 2006 in addition to 2004. If true, it is also the endorsement of a very senior Democrat with years of foreign policy experience - it helps because his endorsement would reassure some on that. Every endorsement I saw in 2006 written by Kerry made an excellent case on why the vote was the right one.

cause that "old guard" certainly is NOT for change

What I wouldn't give to see that young veteran that appeared before Congress so many years ago.

'Watch out for' does not equate to an endorsement.

I've been wondering if Kerry will endorse anyone, but this is hardly an endorsement.

that Edwards was not Kerry's first choice for VP. I really think he wanted Gephardt.

but people like Clinton and Kennedy preferred Edwards. What is more telling was the Edwards quote in the NYT article of a few weeks ago, where he spoke of refusing to use the campaign's slogan "Help is on the way" because he didn't like it. This was EDWARDS saying that, Kerry was not available for the article. This indicates to me that he was the VP nominee from hell. What sort of VP refuses to follow the campaign on slogans?

I guess that's upsetting to Kerry supporters. :shrug:

Why in hell should a v.p. candidate argue with the slogan selected for the campaign?

What, on principle Edwards thought "help is on the way" was a bad slogan? What, did he think help wasn't on the way with KE04?

Sheesh.

There was NO principle involved here, except the one that says if you agree to be the second man on the ticket you SUPPORT the Presidential nominee. Slogans are important, but it was KERRY'S right to chose the slogans. From the quote it said that Kerry wanted "help" because it was more tangible - in other words, Kerry did consider and reject Edwards view that they should switch to "hope", which Edwards used in the primary. (Maybe Edwards missed that Kerry easily beat him.) This was not some long held belief - like asking a pro-life person to speak in favor of pro-choice, this was a slogan. Either one was better than BOTH - and "help is on the way" makes more sense as Democrats already had hope - it was not in the future.

Note - Kerry took stands against corporate money in politics in the time period before Edwards even voted regularly.

:(

Kerry was out of the country at that time - in South Africa, with Teresa doing some oversight on how the US program to help Africa fight AIDS - the legislation for he wrote and got Frist to sign on to - which is likely why they had no comment from him. He has not said word one against Edwards - but in that comment, a lot is explained about 2004. It is sad that Edwards accepted the spot with no intention of supporting Kerry as all other VPs have supported the candidate. I have no idea why this was - it just doesn't make sense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/us/politics/21edwards.html

Yeah, it's sad. :(

Given a lot of what was said here, Kerry actually did a pretty good job keeping the obvious troubles out of public eye. It was bad enough hearing the grumblings of the Clinton allied people like Carville. It makes me think that Mary Beth Cahill, in particular, got a bad rap. She did a phenomenal job in the primaries and Kerry nearly won a race with everything aligned against the Democrat. Adding a prima donna VP likely didn't help.

How bout a spiffy, brand spankin' new flip flopper like John Edwards? You know, the guy who couldn't be bothered to take directions from the guy who put him on the ticket to begin with.

Senator Kerry.

"Washed up" and "flip-flopper" do not accord, in my opinion, with someone with demonstrable achievement toward the public good.

You're performing heart surgery with a meat ax.

In my opinion the more effective response would be to congratulate Sen. Obama for drawing the support of a learned and dedicated man.

If that isn't too traditional.

w/the tazing incident.

Red herring.

I don't know what he was supposed to do--start a fist fight with the cops? They were in charge of that event, not he.

Thank you Senator.

No wonder Kerry lost. He's got the political sensibilities of a mudhen.

Even though Obama supports nuclear and liquid coal . Something Gore has come out against.

Hypocrites at their worst.

life, especially political life, there are times when one looks at what is best for the given circumstances. If Gore endorses Obama, that is his right, you can take it or leave it, after all, Hitler would endorse bush, does that mean we should to accept it?

All this is doing is fanning the flames of discord. No one is without "problems", and they will only grow larger as time goes by.

Using the "tactics" you are using, you will get no one over to your side.

can't see that in a million years

If Gore was waiting for anyone, it was a deadlocked group at the top of the ticket. It looks like there's movement now and the deadlock won't last long.

to know that he was so egotistical he would fight using the campaign slogan!

From that vantage point, it just looked like the top winner picked the second place winner as VP and then they rode off into the sunset together.

Speaks volumes that he wouldn't endorse him, doesn't it?

(could it have been Edwards' refusal to follow the campaign playbook and insisting on using his own slogan, thus making it look like the campaign couldn't even settle on a slogan? Hmmm, probably some other stuff as well.)

I remember how hard the Kerry people pounded the idea of "unity" into our heads at the convention in Boston.

I guess that was just a slogan for them.

Oh, well.

:shrug:

More bullshit coming from the Obama campaign?

release to rejoice.

Obama has said several times he was staying in contact with Gore and Kerry for advice.

John Norris advised both Kerry and Obama on how to win in Iowa.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=266686

thanks for pointing that out.

right. How convenient.

Kerry was painted by the Republicans as flip flopping, but he has been consistent on more issues than most politicians over 4 decades in the public eye. Kerry never made nearly a half a million dollars for a few days a month with a hedge fund. Kerry has fought off shoring as well and did not profit from it.

I would not be surprised if Kerry does endorse Obama - I would be shocked if he endorsed either Richardson or Edwards. Before Iowa, he spoke most warmly of Obama and he has legislation and an op-ed with him. When asked he always mentioned Biden and Dodd as well qualified and that Obama and HRC were fighting for frontrunner. Kerry himself has spoken of the need for change - so it would make sense. It also seems that a lot of Kerry people went to Obama when he announced he wouldn't run, including Marvin Nickolson who was always with the Kerrys.

My idols are crashing and breaking bigtime.

Which Edwards do you support? The one who was Senator or the one who has completely apologized for what he did as Senator? Talk about "flip-flopper"...

:rofl:

So disappointed I might just do something like take my name off of his mailing list. And these are strong words coming from a dedicated Kerry enthusiast.

It kind of surprises me too, but since I think that Obama is the best of the top 3, it doesn't upset me if he chooses to endorse Obama. I guess it must be tough if you support Kerry but don't agree about Obama.

If he does endorse, please consider that from where Kerry sits, it might appear to be the best thing for the country to lock in a candidate as early as possible, to avoid wounding the eventual nominee from a long drawn out primary process, especially when one of the candidates has shown no reluctance to use right-wing smear tactics. Kerry will certainly have more information and experience about this than I do, so if he makes this choice I will know that he had a good reason.

That doesn't make him look good.

who capitulated Ohio to King George immediately and sold out America with a startled and ANGRY Edwards by his side?

this Kerry. Now, what exactly stopped the "angry" Edwards, now running to become president, from fighting for his country? Kerry did, has and continues to do so in many ways.

losers when they endorsed Hillary fall to the floor and start talking in tongues?

I think it was Bob Shrum's book, but I could be mistaken, but I vaguely remember Edwards saying something harsh about the 2004 campaign.

I do distinctly remember Clinton stabbing Kerry in the back over the "botched joke" in the crucial days before the mid-term election. It was clearly a move to kick him out of the 2008 race, and I'm sure Kerry has not forgotten it.

That said, Obama and Kerry make a great fit as people on the progressive end of the Democratic spectrum.

that Elizabeth has been telling stories on what really went on behind the scenes in the campaign with all the mistakes made by the Kerry camp.

she couldn't possibly be twisting the tales to make her hubby look better.

:eyes:

(really should she be telling tales anyway?)

But you're right, Obama is a better fit with Kerry - seems to be more of a team player than Edwards, and more willing to take advice from experienced people.

If either Edwards has been feeding the mistaken idea that there was some action that could have made Kerry President, then shame on them.

told them to go home. We had lawyers from Seattle in Florida, and they were told to forget it.BY KERRY.

He sucks - it was Edwards who wanted to fight but couldn't because Kerry was the candidate

That really has nothing to do with the fact that you're wrong and have no idea what you're talking about.

most democratic campaigfn workers were so mad and disgusted with Kerry we said we'd never work another democratic campaign....it's a good thing 4 years have passed , and if Edwards wasn't in this I wouldnt be workig for the campaign.

is not proof that you were there, nor is it proof you're right. Bob Shrum worked the campaign, and he's been known to get a few facts wrong.

you're ridiculous

and now i'm puttin you on ignore

I wish you had ignored this thread instead of posting the vile comment you did. Glad it was removed.

Doesn't help all that much. But keep throwing the stones.

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"Edwards wanted to keep fighting"?

You think it's okay to use it against Democrats?

Are you sure you're at the right site?

n/t

The OP was suspended Caucus night for spamming GDP about false "facts" about Edwards (mainly), et al.

The mention of Kerry's name brings everyone out of the woodwork.

Just like the recent vitriol against Bill Clinton on here by posters who don't care for HRC. Bill Clinton was far from perfect, but the recent trend of some shredding him apart while declaring him Bushlike is appalling. He was a Democratic president and a decent one. Even Monica Lewinsky is being mentioned. Ugh.

I don't care for their triangulation, but the vitriol he and Hil get here is also tiresome. It's talk you would hear on a freeper forum or somewhere.