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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:16 PM
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Did Kucinich, Dodd or BIden get a fair chance from the Corporate Media?
Did Biden and Dodd run this race to keep Gravel and Kucinich message from being heard? What were they doing in the debates? Were they there for cover for the dishonesty of the media?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:17 PM
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1. NONE of them got fair coverage
Kucinich, Biden, Dodd or Gravel.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:18 PM
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2. Are you for real?
:wtf:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:18 PM
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3. Obama had corporate oprah, Hillary had Murdoch, the rest had nobody like that nt
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:19 PM
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4. I blame people, not MSM.
15 minutes and any internet connection can tell anyone anything about all the candidates.
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:21 PM
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7. I have been following this thing pretty closely
and I have no idea what Dodd was about.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:22 PM
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9. I blame people too
Dodd was a great candidate but he was written off by Democrats right away because he voted for IWR. Other candidates who voted for IWR still got consideration so Dodd should have been considered too. Dodd was never given a chance.
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:20 PM
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5. Of course they didn't
I think Biden and Dodd meant to win the nomination but you never knw. Although I doubt the corporations or whomever would have gone to the lenghts of having Biden and Dodd play smokescreen. They could very well have just excluded them from the devbates claiming only viable candidates those polling at ten percent or better would be allowed and then taken what little heat they would have gotten from K and G supporters but so what? mission accomplished. Which they pretty much did anyway.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:20 PM
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6. I think it's a bit much to say that Biden was ignored by the corporate media
Considering that he's been known to appear on ALL of the Sunday morning talk shows on the same day on more than a few occasions. So he certainly had his access to the media machine. But there's no question that the media whores always treated this like a race with only two people running. Maybe three if they couldn't ignore Edwards that particular day.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:24 PM
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10. Yeah - they would have Biden on to ask him in detail about Pakistan
and the minute he would leave, the discussion would be that this will help Hillary.

Biden was used by the media, just like they bring in their foreign relations experts, they would bring in Biden.
They never once put his knowledge and experience as a reason to look at him as a candidate.

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:21 PM
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8. No, none of them got a fair chance, and neither is Edwards now.
And why is that?

Because corporate America is very concerned about candidates they don't own. A win for Hillary or Barack is OK with them, because they already have them in their pocket.

But if one of the other candidates should win...well...that would impact their bottom line, and that can't be allowed. So, since they own the media, they control the coverage.

Democracy in America today stinks.
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ShariJH Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:25 PM
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11. This is a ridiculous topic.
There is no way taht Biden and Dodd did that. Geezy peezy. They were screwed by the media just like Gravel and Kucinich were.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:26 PM
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12. Please watch this video
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ShariJH Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:37 PM
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18. By the way.......
note that this is a Gravel video that we Bidenites are promoting all around the web because we agree that Gravel AND Kucinich have a right to be heard.
I for one am STILL busy contacting the media with complaints about how the non-"top tier" candidates are treated even though my candidate is out of the race.
As I said before, the topic of this post is ridiculous. I am extremely insulted by it.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:41 PM
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21. Excellent video.
Very clear that WE do not choose our candidates.

As it stated...we are left to choose "the lesser of two evils". How sad is that?

Sad and infuriating.


DR
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:47 PM
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24. Both.
And I think it's time to do something about it.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:29 PM
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13. Wow...further proof that ignorance really is bliss.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:32 PM
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14. No. The media only cares about their ratings and advertising dollars. They
get more viewers covering the so-called "fights" between the other candidates. Even today, the headlines are about who said what to whom in the debate -- almost like gossip.
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demommom Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:35 PM
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15. Where in the hell would you get such a stupid idea as that?
Man, I don't know why anyone would even want to put thierselves on the line for some of the stupid shit they have endure.:grr:
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:35 PM
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16. No. The two parties gave the media power they should not have to run debates, control news.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:36 PM
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17. No.. not even close.
The slimestream media is completely corrupt
and compromised by corporate owners.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:38 PM
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19. Richardson Hasn't Really Either
I'm an Edwards supporter, but I don't understand why Richardson hasn't gotten more attention.

He's got an awesome resume. He's Hispanic. He opposed the Iraq War from the beginning (although wasn't in a position to actually vote against it)

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:48 PM
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25. I bet last night at the debate, he was feeling like that potted plant that Gravel referred to.
It was sad to watch.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:38 PM
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20. I've met people who thought that Clinton and Obama are the ONLY candidates
because they're the only ones who get major media coverage.

Yes, people SHOULD do their own research, but many do not. For one thing, not everyone is an Internet junkie or a political junkie. The truth is out there, but you have to know that it's different from what you see on TV and you have to know how to look for it.

I've seen a lot of presidential campaigns, and I don't ever remember the media narrowing down the field this early.

This round, everyone who isn't Clinton or Obama has been given short-shrift by the media. I think the media moguls see the "horse race" aspects of a match race between a black man and a woman are more interesting than presenting the facts about each candidates positions.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:18 PM
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26. True. And I think the media has already picked Obama for us.
That's really what I see. After NH, Edwards will be out, Hillary will be out, and it'll be all about Obama. Richardson is hanging by a silk thread right now. He'll be out too.

Someone/something has to stop the media. Otherwise, they will continue doing this. It sets a dangerous precedent.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:42 PM
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22. NO. n/t
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:43 PM
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23. Don't think they got a fair shake either...
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 04:44 PM by Desertrose
but also don't think they were a cover...the media doesn't really try to hide that much once you know their games.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 05:46 PM
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27. No. I watched CNN and msnbc
the days that it got closer to the election they would continually show Obama, Hillary and edwards and if they said anything about any of the others they flash their picture across the screen quickly. They got what they wanted...They would even show clips of segments of events where they gave speeches and left out the others...
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