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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:21 PM
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Superdelegates for 2008
From this site Democratic Convention Watch
<http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html>

~snip~
"Here's a list of superdelegates that have officially announced who they plan to nominate. If you know of any others or are a superdelegate please post a comment. Obviously the list will change as candidates drop out of the race. Most info is from here unless otherwise noted.
In the coming weeks we will try to get a handle on where the superdelegate votes will go."

~end snip~



So this is the list of those 314 other people who get a BIG SAY in who will be the Democratic nominee. Of course, they're not arranged to my liking, but there's still time for them to change their minds...


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Obama
VA Democratic Party Chair C. Richard Cranwell
Gov. Rod Blagojevich of Illinois
Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia
Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois
Rep. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii
Rep. Melissa Bean of Illinois
Rep. Russ Carnahan of Missouri
Rep. Lacy Clay of Missouri
Rep. John Conyers of Michigan
Rep. Jerry Costello of Illinois
Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland
Rep. Artur Davis of Alabama
Rep. Danny Davis of Illinois
Rep. Keith Ellison of Minnesota
Rep. Luis Gutierrez of Illinois
Rep. Phil Hare of Illinois
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois
Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin
Rep. Bobby Rush of Illinois
Rep. Jan Schakowsky of Illinois
Rep. Adam Smith of Washington
Rep. Robert Wexler of Florida
Del. Eni Faleomavaega of American Samoa
John Millin (WY) - Obama
Rep. Sanford Bishop (GA) - Obama
Hank Johnson (GA) - Obama
Rep. William Delahunt (MA)
Dan Slater (CO)
Rep. Dave Loebsack (IA)
Rep. Betty McCollum (MN)
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (NH)
Rep. Patrick Murphy (PA)
Rep. Barbara Lee (CA)
Rep. Paul Hodes (NH)
Rep. Jim Cooper (TN)
Rep. Al Green (TX)
Rep. Bobby Scott (VA)
Del. Eni FH Falleomavaga (Am-Samoa)
Sen. Kent Conrad (ND)
Gov. Deval Patrick (MA)
DNC Steven Horsford (NV)
DNC Tom Hynes (IL)
Sen. Barack Obama (IL)

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Clinton
Gov. Jon Corzine of New Jersey
Gov. Eliot Spitzer of New York
Gov. Martin O'Malley of Maryland
Sen. Daniel Inouye of Hawaii
Sen. Barbara Mikulski of Maryland
Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York
Rep. Gary Ackerman of New York
Rep. Michael Arcuri of New York
Rep. Robert Andrews of New Jersey
Rep. Timothy Bishop of New York
Rep. Joseph Crowley of New York
Rep. Eliot Engel of New York
Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
Rep. John Hall of New York
Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida
Rep. Brian Higgins of New York
Rep. Maurice Hinchey of New York
Rep. Steve Israel of New York
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas
Rep. Nita Lowey of New York
Rep. Carolyn Maloney of New York
Rep. Doris Matsui of California
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy of New York
Rep. Jim McGovern of Massachusetts
Rep. Michael McNulty of New York
Rep. Gregory Meeks of New York
Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York
Rep. Richard Neal of Massachusetts
Rep. Frank Pallone of New Jersey
Rep. Charles Rangel of New York
Rep. Jose Serrano of New York
Rep. Louise Slaughter of New York
Rep. Edolphus Towns of New York
Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio
Rep. Nydia Velazquez of New York
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of FL
Rep. Anthony Weiner of New York
Don Fowler (SC)
Thurbert Baker (GA)
Michael Thurmond (GA)
Rep. John Lewis (GA)
Tommy Irvin (GA)
Robert Menendez (NJ)
Michael Mauro (IA)
Gov. Ted Kulongoski (OR)
Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA)
Sen. Diane Feinstein (CA)
Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA)
Rep. Jane Harman (CA)
Rep. Tom Lantos (CA)
Rep. Janet Napolitano (CA)
Rep. Laura Richardson (CA)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA)
Rep. Brad Sherman (CA)
Rep. Hilda Solis (CA)
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (CA)
Rep. Diane Watson (CA)
Manny Rodriguez (CO)
Maria Handley (CO)
Gov. John Balducci (ME)
Rep. CA Dutch Ruppersberger (MD)
Rep. Barney Frank (MA)
Gov. Ted Strickland (OH)
Rep. Diane DeGette (CO)
VP Walter Mondale (MN)
Rep. David Scott (GA)
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (MO)
Gov. Mike Beebe (AR)
Rep. Corrine Brown (FL)
Rep. Kendrick Meek (FL)
Sen. Evan Bayh (IN)
Rep. Tammy Baldwin (WI)
Rep. Yvette D. Clarke (NY)
Rep. Darlene Hooley (OR)
Rep. Bill Pascrell (NJ)
Rep. Albio Sires (NJ)
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (MI)
Rep. Jay Inslee (WA)
Rep. Henry Cuellar (TX)
Rep. Ruben Hinojosa (TX)
Rep. Stephen Lynch (MA)
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (RI)
Rep. Jim Langevin (RI)
Rep. Leonard Boswell (IA)
Rep. Marion Berry (AR)
Rep. Mike Ross (AR)
Rep. Vic Snyder (AR)
Sen. Mark Pryor (AR)
Rep. Joe Sestak (PA)
Rep. Allyson Schwartz (PA)
Gov. Jennifer Granholm (MI)
DNC Dina Titus (NV)
DNC Tim Sullivan (WI)
Rep. Donald Payne (NJ)
Sen. Maria Cantwell (WA)
Del. Donna M Christensen (VI)
Sen. Hillary Clinton (NY)

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Edwards
Rep. G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina
Rep. Bob Etheridge of North Carolina
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of SD
Rep. Charlie Gonzalez of Texas
Rep. Raul Grijalva of Arizona
Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson of Texas
Rep. Mike McIntyre of North Carolina
Rep. Brad Miller of North Carolina
Rep. Jim Oberstar of Minnesota
Rep. David Obey of Wisconsin
Rep. David Price of North Carolina
Rep. Heath Shuler of North Carolina
Rep. Bart Stupak of Michigan
Rep. Mel Watt of North Carolina
Rep. Albert Wynn of Maryland (Conflicting information found)
Rep. Michael Michaud (ME)
Rep. Bruce Braley (IA)
DNC Joe Wineke (WI)

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Biden - Withdrawn
Sen. Thomas Carper of Delaware
Sen. Joe Biden

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Kucinich
Jon Ausman (FL) - Kucinich
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
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Richardson
Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico
Tom Udall of New Mexico
Gene Green of Texas
Silvestre Reyes of Texas
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
Debbie Marquez (CO)
Ramona Martinez (CO)
Rep. Ed Pastor (AZ)
Rep. Solomon Ortiz (TX)
DNC Ed Espinoza (CA)
Colorado - 1 for Richardson
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Dodd - Withdrawn
Rep. Xavier Becerra of California
Rep. Joe Courtney of Connecticut
Rep. Rosa DeLauro of Connecticut
Rep. Anna Eshoo of California
Rep. Sam Farr of California
Rep. Patrick Kennedy of Rhode Island
Rep. John Larson of Connecticut
Rep. Christopher Murphy of Connecticut
Rep. Tim Ryan (OH)
Rep. Linda Sanchez (CA)
Sen. Chris Dodd
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:34 PM
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1. Why do SuperDelegates exist?
This whole process is disturbing to me. But perhaps an understanding of superdelegates and what they're supposed to accomplish can help me out.

How does one become a superdelegate, and what are one's duties?
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:53 PM
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3. It began as a way to keep the "establishment" in as part of the
process, and that defines its present purpose too, imnsho.


From Wiki:
Superdelegates are delegates to a presidential nominating convention in the United States who are not bound by the decisions of party primaries or caucuses. Superdelegates are elected officeholders and party officials.

Superdelegates were first appointed in the 1970s, after control of the nomination process in the Democratic Party effectively moved out of the hands of party officials into the primary and caucus process. The aim was to accord some say in the process to people who had been playing roles in the party before the election year.

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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:25 AM
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11. Thank you for answering.
I don't know what to say. I've never really given mind to caucuses before. But this is good information. I wonder what happened in 1972 and 1976, to make the democratic party fear the primary and caucus process?
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 04:36 PM
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2. THis Underscores How The Democratic Party Establishment
Has a stranglehold over the rank and file members of the party.

It is just one more reason why I am independent.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:55 PM
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4. Super Delegates are not committed and can change their prefernce at any time
Why even try to pretend that this is the way to the nomination?
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:58 PM
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My point is exactly that -- that they can switch
and that they can be influenced!
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 08:58 PM
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5. hiccup!
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 08:58 PM by Turn CO Blue
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:23 AM
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10. Are superdelegates pure, or is it 'i'll scratch your back'?
What would be necessary for someone to change their mind, after all is said and done? do considerations of loyalty/patronage factor in, or has this ever happened before for it to be a question?

Can a person 'win' through superdelegates but not through caucuses?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 10:05 PM
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6. how up to date?
I think that site is referencing CNN's archive from May 2007. I had looked at the site a few weeks ago and know Biden and Dodd had more than they do now. Have some realigned already. Obviously Biden and Dodd haven't endorsed yet.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D

click tab for superdelegates
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:48 PM
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7. CNN's numbers are based on anonymous polls
My blog is showing the superdelegates that have officially endorsed a candidate.
It's a lot easier as a superdelegate to change your mind if you haven't endorsed a candidate in front of the whole world.

To me CNN's numbers are misleading as they're pretty much estimating the numbers

Check out the blog further at http://demconwatch.blogspot.com I just did a list of who <strong>hasn't</strong> endorsed anybody yet. We have along wa to go and I really thinf that after Tuesday things will start to change rapidly.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:56 PM
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8. guess I'm confused
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:06 AM
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9. Here is the latest as of 1/6/08 on Super Delegates/Delegates
Clinton super delegates 154 + 15 delegates from Iowa.....total of 169
Edwards super delegates 33 + 14 delegates from Iowa.....total of 47
Obama super delgates 50 + 16 delegates from Iowa.....total of 66

Shall be brought to you each Sunday evening for info only.......


Shalom

Ben David
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:21 PM
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12. This isn't right
I updated my Delegate Tracker today and the numbers are much different.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com Look on the left side of the site.
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