Edwards: "The Clinton campaign has no conscience"

Oh..Obama's VP..

That is exactly how it went down. He was touting it as a major achievement. And she's right: If they'd gotten the house behind them, things would have been different. To turn this around to say she was blaming him for her death is totally absurd. Sounds like desperation to me. Kissing up to Obama during the debate was also beneath him.

a little over a week ago when they accused Axelrod of blaming Bhutto's death on Hillary.

Hillary was also a Senator when Edwards' bill was torpedoed in the House of Representatives (notice: Edwards is a Senator NOT a Representative.

Don't you find it a little creepy that Hillary would attack Edwards for this Bill sinking in The House when she was also a Senator at the same time?

Edwards deserves credit for getting this passed in The Senate, his sphere of influence.
"All you can do" IS all you can do, and I expect no more from the people for which I vote.

Did Hillary help Edwards get this passed in the Senate?....if not, then shame on Hillary.


Both Hillary and Edwards deserve the same amount of blame for this not passing in The House.....which is NONE!

Hillary DOES deserve a "Not a Smart Move" award for attempting to attack Edwards during the debate with this wet and disingenuous noodle.

A House bill also passed. Rather than go to conference to resolve differences in the two bills, the White House and the cosponsors of S.1052 (McCain, Edwards, & Kennedy) agreed to deal directly. Negotiations began in Nov. of '01, but no deal was ever reached. McCain and Edwards publicly noted that the White House had made a good faith effort to reach a compromise, but the positions were too far apart and no deal was reached. By August of '02 talks between the White House & the Senate had broken down.

What else can you say?

So I guess he can't see Hillary's.

is that like reading auras?

He tells sick lies about Hillary. I hate that man.

Edwards lost. He should go away and stop trying to destroy the future viability of potential nominees with his disgusting slander.

I would never say I "hate" her.

That's just ridiculous.

If you don't think there's a difference, I'm not sure what to say other than the fact that it's not personal with me.

Not a nice place.

Standing there post Iowa MEGA-LOSS @ the podium w/ ... Project for A New American Century Signatory Madeline Albright at her side... What a collection of DIRTY LAUNDRY! :puke:

Edwards is the nominee.

thats what he's hoping for now..

Than that doesn't say much about Clinton.

for only the last 4 years --and all he does is squeak out one percentage point?

If he were a viable candidate, he'd have mopped the floor with everyone (including Obama)

If she was a viable candidate, she'd have wiped the floor with everyone.

seems to me your hate is misaligned with who you think won and who you think lost...

so is second place losing to you and third place winning????????

and if you had been in the precinct i was in in iowa over seeing the caucus you would have seen Hillary barely viable!!

yes barely viable!!

she was made viable by 3 people!! one who moved from Biden and two who moved from Richardson ( who were not viable)

fly

Edwards can knock Hillary off maybe but he can't beat Obama.

You tried to make the following 3 points (my respone follows each one):

1)-He tells sick lies about Hillary. I hate that man. (Evidence please? As for using the word "hate", isn't that just slightly over the top and well, hateful? If you insist on hating people, please hate Dick Cheney or even Liberman, as they are much more deserving)

2)-Edwards lost. (Huh? Lost what? What did he lose? He very well may not win the nomination, but it's so arrogant and ridiculous to say "Edwards lost" at *this* point.)

3)-He should go away and stop trying to destroy the future viability of potential nominees with his disgusting slander.

(Isn't saying "destroy the future viability" a bit melodramatic *at best*? I'd even say it's laughable, as is the charge of "disgusting slander". They ALL take shots at eacher other. If you want "disgusting slander", look at what Rove and Co did to McCain in South Carolina in 2000. *That* is actual disgusting slander, not whatever it is you think the Edwards campaign has done)

Saying Hillary accused him of causing the girl's death would have been an example of a sick lie. Others, like she's a defender of the culture of corruption are sick too. I don't pick who I hate. It happens after somebody ticks me off enough. It doesn't last if they stop. I was laying off Edwards while he tried to control himself. If he goes back to legitimate campaigning I'll stop hating him.

Technically Edwards hasn't lost but he bet all his chips on Iowa and has nowhere to go. The chances of him winning the nomination now are about nil.

Yeah. Future viability is dramatic but I said TRYING. He shows vindictiveness against Hillary. They can all take shots at each other. One claims better experience or the other's health care plan doesn't work. That doesn't bother me. Falsehoods and character assassination do. Especially from a phony like Edwards.

By the way, I don't like cheap negative attacks from anybody. I'm thinking about changing from Hillary to Obama because I don't like the way she's attacked him recently.

(sigh) I guess Fox *does* influence far too many people, directly or indirectly by passing on their BS talking points to be repeated by other media outlets (ones progressives are more likely to watch):

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/10050-fox-news-and-john-edwards?play=1

One good example:

Edwards portrays himself the champion of withdrawing troops from Iraq and bashes Hillary for offering to keep troops there. Edwards says he'll move the troops next door but says he'll send them back in to fight Al Qaeda. So he's lying about what he's going to do in Iraq with at least one of these claims. And what's more, I don't believe its possible to be based in one country and run a counter-terrorist war in another. Think of the logistics. The idea is ridiculous.

Obviously, Edwards read a poll that said the public favors taking US troops out of Iraq but another poll says the US wants US troops to continue to fight Al Qaeda there. Solution? Endorse both and forget about whether its actually possible or not, or if it even makes sense.

FYI, BO is my second choice, and it's not as if he's squeaky clean.

I don't think JE is watching the polls any more closely than BO is.

The big difference is that I totally agree with JE that you can't "nice" the special interest groups into giving up their power. He's dead on with that point.

But hey, if Obama wins it's not the end of the world. I think he'll shake things up, just not as much. But ripping JE doesn't help either one of them.

Edwards confirms the world view of a segment of our population. They identify with him and stop watching what he does.

Nobody is proposing being nice to special interest groups. Other candidates are honest with voters about the reality that we'll have to work with them. For example, Edwards' health care plan includes insurance companies. Who is going to carry out the insurance company portion of Edwards' plan? He'll have to work with them at some point.

that under Obama's plan she would be denied coverage. Here, Edwards' claim is subjective and people can reject it - it's in line with the corrupt charge. Both were over the top.

Maybe you should tell that to everyone who placed behind him in Iowa.

is to either:
A)show the Obama folks the same assholiness they showed if Obama looses that they showed when Hillary lost(I have saved threads)
or
B) watch the Edwards folks squeal when the Obama folks feed on them if Edwards grows a spine and takes on Edwards after Hillary is gone.
I don't even care if Hillary wins or looses at this point..I'm just staying to watch the show...

The Clinton campaign has no soul either.

would walk again.


"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_21_56/ai_n13667669

He always comes across as the traveling salesman hawking all kinds of nostrums like-

"Dr. Kilmer's Swamp Root, Dr. Pierce's Golden Medical Discovery, Dr. Pierce's Nasal Douche, Kickapoo Indian Sagwa, Sarsaparilla, Dr. Hercules Sanche's Oxydonor, Balm of Gilead, Rattlesnake Oil, Pulvermacher's Electro-Galvanic Chain, Kidney Pads, Anodyne Cordials, magnetic plasters, Pink Pills for Pale People, King of Pain, Lithontriptic, Thayer's Slippery Elm Lozenges, Men's Secret, Swamp Oil, Galvanic Love Powder, The Invalid's Friend and Hope, Princess Lotus Blossom's Vital Sparks ("from the Quali Quah pouch of the Kup Ki See Chinese Turtle"), Kurakoff, Wilsonia Magnetic Garments, Dr. Fahnstock's Celebrated Vermifuge, and countless more."




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numbers must be bad for him to stoop that low. What an awful contemptible thing to say.

Not only does the clinton campaign have "no conscience" but I don't really see evidence of a conscience since I've readin' about them and especially with hillary supporting bush policies sending Soldiers to die and be maimed right along with the untold hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have suffered under bushits rule with the Depleted Uranium, with her support,.. and then there's bill lying that he "never supported the War On Iraq".

Their pandering certainly doesn't suggest they have a conscience.

If anything, what she said was a jab at the Republican establishment for not passing the bill. I don't get how people think it was attack on Edwards.

the same way he pretends to have a conscience.

It makes me like him less every day.

The picture in your signature line just really distracts me too much to add any meaningful content to this conversation.

:+

and I loved his wife. I still like her very much, but he's turned me off during this campaign, certainly more than Hillary has.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/6/183240/7493

Edwards to Clinton Campaign : Have you no Conscience?
by TomP, Sun Jan 06, 2008 at 06:32:40 PM EST

John Edwards responded to the tasteless attacks of the Clinton campaign today.



Today, Senator John Edwards today responded to Senator Clinton's aide, Jay Carson's statement that "In order to be president, you need to do more than read articles about people who need help and talk about them," saying Clinton is "somebody who's actually going to help people and not use them as talking points."


John Edwards said:



"My reaction is this campaign doesn't seem to have a conscience. This is not about them - it's about families like the Sarkisyans, the Lowes, and the Lakeys, who desperately need a voice.


http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-re leases/20080106-clinton-attacks/

more .......

:dunce:

Yeah, they eat babies every morning. Get real.

wrote that bill with Edwards and presented it, so she's attacking Ted Kennedy.

Hey, if Hillary is the nominee, I sure wont vote for her, nor Obama.

I intend to re-register as an independent and I'lleither write in the name
of Edwards or Gore.

If Edwards had a conscience, there would have been a few thousand dead people on it.
And the secrecy on our stolen votes to boot.

again rejected with Kerry, then what is it this man brings to the table except the same old stuff? Now he says he will stay in the race till the convention. What is he going to do except be obama's attack dog to go after HRC.

a word about what happened to it in 2004 doesn't go far in proving there's a conscience there.
And I did like that part in Hillary's response about using people as talking points.

then it was all worth it. No more DLCers, period. I'll vote Huckleberry before DLC. At least Huckleberry will only make HIS party look corrupt. The DLC people make OUR party look just as bad and thats why they never have any coattails.

I heard it as an attack on Edwards too.

Natalie Sarkisyan's mom did speak today about how she had personally gotten into contact with John Edwards' people through an Armenian support group.

Hillary might not have known all the details of the Sarkisyans and Edwards, because it's possible to look at Edwards as being an opportunist when it came to the Sarkisyan case.

My only problem with the drama is: why the Sarkisyans? what made that case more important than any of the cases that have happened in the past year or past couple years? particularly since, given what has been written at Daily Kos (reading between the lines and the hatred), Cigna may have been in the right and (most significantly) none of the candidates health plans would have been able to help Natalie Sarkisyan?

I don't know. I can't put my finger on it.

I don't like how Clinton was pushed aside after the debate, by Obama, Edwards -- AND Richardson. I've seen the photos, at FreeRepublic. I won't vote for Clinton, but those photos hurt my heart.

There's some backstabbing about to go down, and go down deep.

Clinton has screwed up royalling during this campaign. Royally. She has been nasty, bitter and vindictive. But there was no reason for what happened after the debate, with that body language, where she was all alone and the guys were all huggy huggy on one another.

Obama needs to be careful around Edwards.

I've met him several times. I've met some of the others as well. I've seen Obama too! Obama IS SOOO High his feet are on fire. He is Naive and lays claim to one title, The Great Conciliator, ala Neville Chamberlain.

Anybody who is of the opinion that Obama will stand against the Oil, Insurance and defense industries after he's taken all kinds of $$$$CASH from them needs a good spanking. :puke:

...acting the same way in a debate when it was only Kerry, Edwards and Kucinich (after Dean had dropped from the picture). I felt the same way as you did after watching the debate. I lost some points with me. Edwards is so much better when he sticks to his message and stop playing politics.

Hillary's campaign has been utterly disgusting and despicable.

and THAT'S what determines who wins or loses

Let Obama win comfortably.

I didn't hear her say that it was Edward's fault that Nataline died. She simply pointed out that the bill never passed the House, she never implied that it was his fault that it hadn't passed.

Fake outrage over invented B.S.

Fuck Johnny Edwards, and the jury he rode in on.