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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:30 AM
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Why did Kucinich throw his support behind Obama in Iowa?
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 09:56 AM by eablair3
I was wondering about this.

Can some Kucinich people explain why he chose to support Obama in Iowa (at least when DK didn't get 15%)?

Why did he choose Obama over say Edwards? Edwards seems closer in spirit to Kucinich?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:31 AM
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1. Because investing in Fortress Hedge Fund AFTER his imaginary evolution proves how fake Edwards is.
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 09:32 AM by cryingshame
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:31 AM
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2. Kucinich is a fallen idol.
Sigh
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:36 AM
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3. Kucinich will be the "Sucide Bomber" of this election
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:34 AM by Phred42
IT was very telling and Kucinich lost me with the talk about a run with Ron Paul

I think if DK can't get what he wants he'll explode and take as many as he can with him
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:42 AM
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7. Just ask those of us who have to "live" with Dennis and his decisions. Dennis
is a maverick and wonderful on policy.

But he is not a leader. Very few in congress have followed him. And he continuously supports Republicans over Democrats. He has refused to support Democrats who run against his "friend" Republican Steve LaTourette, 14th Cong. District.

LaTourette was the deciding vote for CAFTA......but you will never hear Kucinich own up to that.

Dennis is of the "don't do what I do, but what i say" philosophy.


Those of us who know Dennis, are not surprised.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:38 AM
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4. Because Edwards promised to nuke Iran on Jan 21, 2007
at a conference in Herzliya.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:38 AM
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5. Kucinich's move...
...for Obama seemed to be more anti-Edwards than it was pro-Obama.

I sense that there was a lot that went on behind-the-scenes between
K and E--to which we aren't privy.

K and O are in line on the Iraq war. Obama was against it from the onset.
Furthermore, Obama is a constitutional scholar. Part of his platform is
that our Constitution has been ignored and he does not agree with the "Unitary
Executive" mode in which Bush has been. Also, restoring Habeas Corpus is
a major priority with Obama. I'm sure these things were attractive to
Kucinich. Dennis carries around a copy of the Constitution, and Obama
spent a decade teaching students about the Constitution. Obama obviously
had a profound respect for what our Founding Fathers laid down--unlike
some politicians.

I'm sure others can provide more insightful answers, but that's my best
guess.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:53 AM
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9. thanks
thanks for thoughts. I thought the same thing that there must be some kind of rift between DK & Edwards. But, I don't know. They did square off in the previous election, too. Maybe it goes back all that way. But, if there is a rift, I don't know what exactly it is.

Also, I was wondering if perhaps Obama made some back room deal with DK to get his support in Iowa. I think Dk throwing his support was significant to Obama. ALthough Kucinich didn't garner 15% he probably had 5-8% which was close to the margin of victory for Obama in Iowa. And, that win in Iowa certainly got Obama's train jumpstarted. Not surprisingly, you don't hear the mass media talk about this aspect at all.

It just seems that Edwards is more in line with a progressive path. He talks of taking on large, powerful, monied interests and how hard that is going to be. Edwards states that these interests are very entrenched and will stop at practically nothing to keep the status quo. I think Edwards is right about all that. Edwards seems like a better candidate for the normal, working guy than Obama, and so, as someone who has always liked DK, I was just wondering why he chose to throw his support behind Obama instead of Edwards.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:41 AM
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6. Kooch can't find another Progressive to support as a 2nd choice
...so he picked the best of a bad lot, and then offered only tepid, highly qualified support.

I'm with Kooch on this one-Edwards has made lots of money from the subprime mortgage industry that is currently throwing thousands of people out of their homes. Edwards should sell out and distribute his obscene profits to the victims. He can afford it, and it would prove that he is a man of the people after all.
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:50 AM
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8. not a Kucinich person(supporting Obama), but my guess is
That he trusts Obama more, while his language might not be as enshrouded in Liberal rhetoric, his record is. While Edwards has a very strong liberal rhetoric he also have a more conservative record.(AKA Kucinich favors the record over the rhetoric)
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:54 AM
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10. interesting (thanks, nm)
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:20 AM
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11. Don't kid yourself - unless you know Dennis personally - he has a record of not
playing well with others..and he stands a big chance of losing his seat....
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Bodhi BloodWave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:25 AM
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14. I'm simply giving my personal view of the matter
So obviously i can't read his mind, but i can make an guess

The above is my assumption on why he would support Obama over Edwards, to me it seems fairly logical
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:32 AM
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17. That's pretty much what he told Bill Moyers. n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:22 AM
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12. Obama promised to help get him into the NH debate.
Kucinich is the anti-Obama, he sold his soul with that endorsement.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:24 AM
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13. Could it be to get attention, isn't that all he has gotten in all his many runs for President
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:31 AM
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15. He was on Bill Moyers a couple of days ago...
FWIW...

He was asked point-blank why he didn't send unviables to Edwards, seeing as he has the most progressive platform of the front-runners.

Dennis started in saying he's gotten to know all of the candidates, then he stopped short of criticizing Edwards and just said that Obama is very sincere.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:13 PM
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18. thanks -- missed Moyers show on that
I missed last week's Moyer's show
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:32 AM
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16. My theory: he wants to see Hillary lose, and thinks Obama is the best bet
No evidence to back that up, just a gut feeling.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:17 PM
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19. Maybe because Dennis has never flip flopped on being against
the war and will not support anyone who voted for it.
I personally like Edwards, but I won't vote for anyone who voted for the war if I have a choice to vote for someone who voted against it.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:17 PM
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20. You must be new here
It's only been explained about a skidillion times in a brazillion posts
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:22 PM
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21. Obama wants "Change"; Kucinich believes Obama is "sincere"
That's all Kucinich has ever said on the matter of Obama. When asked by Tucker, why not Edwards? Kucinich said it was because Obama is "sincere." Does it mean he thinks Edwards is not "sincere"? I think so.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:24 PM
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22. How big a difference does it make?
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