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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:12 PM
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Curious as to how Kucinich fares today
He spent a lot of time in NH.

I wonder how that effects his vote count at the end.

Top three?

We'll see.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:14 PM
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1. As am I.
Especially considering how he was shut out of the "debate".
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:17 PM
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2. I like Dennis, but not for President. Regardless
his campaign, people power, and donations are not as good as they were in 2004. And they weren't even that great in 2004. Not pissing on the parade. Just my opinion.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:46 PM
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5. You support candidates based on donations?
WOW!!!!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:48 PM
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7. You think that was what I was saying?
WOW!!!!
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:33 PM
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3. I heard some Fred Phelps news earlier
maybe kucinich and the westboro baptist church can have an anti-choice rally together.
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:47 PM
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6. If you confuse DK with Phelps
Please don't vote.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:50 PM
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9. Kucinich was strictly anti-choice
very unsupportive of a woman's right to control her body

that is until he decided he wanted to run for president. guess he decided to flip flop posititions when he realized being anti-choice wouldn't help him out any

historical facts don't lie.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:51 PM
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12. "Historical facts don't lie" That's hilarious!
:rofl:

Do you HONESTLY think people here don't know that? :rofl:

When did you join here, anyhow?
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:53 PM
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16. around the time
howard dean was a little known governor from vermont.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:54 PM
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17. So you're aware then that the whole "Kucinich is anti-choice" *newsflash* is ancient.
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 03:55 PM by redqueen
And a well-known "historical fact" around here.

So maybe you'll stop with the schtick, now. :)

Or... maybe not... time will tell.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:57 PM
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20. theres plenty thats tired
but people have no problem bringing it up

its campaign season, get thicker skin
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:57 PM
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24. Oh my skin is as thick as it comes...
I just tend to point out all the tired nonsensical long-ago-dealt-with bullshit whenever I see it. :)
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:52 PM
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14. Gore was too until '88. People can't change their minds?
Edwards did...like his vote on Iraq for instance?

You wanna talk about flip-flop and the candidates?? Ya may not want to go there.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:54 PM
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18. Divisive Dennis ain't the saint you want him to be
sorry you guys can't handle reality.

he's not going anywhere today votes wise, so return your seats to the upright seated position.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:55 PM
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19. Funny how someone so irrelevant gets so much attention
really... it's very odd.
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:57 PM
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22. only from 2%
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:58 PM
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25.  I was referring to you, oh dedicated pointer outer of ancient news.
:rofl:
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:57 PM
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23. OMG You really don't have a clue,do you?
Reality? Oh please.

Did I say I expected him to take NH? Only that I hope he gains some votes out of his hard work.


Whats your problem....
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:57 PM
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21. And so was Al Gore prior to 1988
Your point (other than the one on the top of your head)?
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:00 PM
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26. Yeah, he was
that doesn't make him synonomous with Fred Phelps.

And there are candidates (or should I say WERE) with worse records on abortion than Kucinich's. They never really moved their positions on the subject either.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:50 PM
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11. Idiotic.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:34 PM
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4. Maybe 2%?
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:50 PM
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8. I really hope his hard work pays off & he does well.
Still don't get all the Kucinich hate here.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:50 PM
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10. As an ex-Kucinch supporter who's sent him money and defended him in the past, I'd say 2%. His buddy
Ron Paul, however, will do quite well.

The fact that Dennis has said more good things about Ron Paul and Barack Obama than about anyone else in the race speaks volumes about Dennis and I have grown apart and says more than a little about Obama.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:52 PM
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13. His buddy Ron Paul?
What the fuck does that mean?

Why do you say he's said more good things about Paul than Obama?

Seriously... :wtf:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:02 PM
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27. Kucinich/Paul 2008
keeping women chained to the kitchen and making babies since 1988
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:05 PM
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32. Oh look! More idiocy!
But hey, at least you're consistent. :hug:

:rofl:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:06 PM
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33. Divisive Dennis is the one supporting Ron Paul
you know, the guy who has made a career out of attacking Martin Luther King Jr

some "progressive credentials" koochy koo is showing there.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:09 PM
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35. That's a goddamned lie!
But please do continue providing the afternoon's entertainment. :rofl:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:52 PM
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47. which part?
about divisive dennis saying he'd consider ron paul as a running mate

or ron paul attacking martin luther king jr?



both have been well proven and documented here.


I mean, koochy koo has a problem with other democrats and has no problem with racist creationists who hate MLK Jr, that says a lot about the kind of person divisive dennis is.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:13 PM
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48. The part where you said DK was "supporting Ron Paul".
You're not fooling anyone, you know... :rofl:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:20 PM
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49. neither is mr 2%
looks like a lot of "REAL DEMOCRATS" just said no :rofl:
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:03 PM
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28. Actually:
Stop Cornyn said: "The fact that Dennis has said more good things about Ron Paul and Barack Obama than about anyone else..."

And it's probably accurate. He certainly hasn't said many nice things about your favorite candidate this cycle, however.

I really hope Dennis surprises people and gets some decent support. If not, I can't see him sticking around very long. He just does not have the funds to do so.

It's a shame, really. It's always nice to have at least one principled candidate in the running.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:04 PM
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31. I didn't ask about "probably". (nt)
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:37 PM
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37. You're right, you didn't. You did, however, misinterpret his comment.
I was merely clarifying.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:40 PM
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38. You mean that last sentence? Yeah, it was barely intelligible!
:rofl:

Thanks ever so much for your assistance. :hi:
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:51 PM
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39. No problem. I'm used to it.
I read texts (onto cassette) for the blind at a community college close to my home. Let me know if you have further difficulty and I'll do what I can.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:53 PM
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40. Well... since you offered...
"The fact that Dennis has said more good things about Ron Paul and Barack Obama than about anyone else in the race speaks volumes about Dennis and I have grown apart and says more than a little about Obama."

What does the part in italics mean? :shrug:
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:06 PM
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41. Omits the words "the fact that" before "Dennis and I have grown apart."
You can (not easily, however) infer this as an omission by the opening clause "The fact that..." I realize that it was unclear, but I believe that was StopCornyn's intent...

The point that you made thereafter did nothing to clarify, either. You seemed to misread the first part of the sentence, making it seem as if Kucinich was saying more good things about Ron Paul than about Obama.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:08 PM
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42. Yes, I did misread. Was I then supposed to clarify his staetment for him?
?

Fortunately you were here to clear up this very crucial and important matter.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:21 PM
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44. It's clearly not your responsibility.
It's not mine, either, but I like to poke my nose in (as you have no doubt discovered), sometimes.

I did not do so maliciously, although I realize we differ quite a bit in political outlook and had clashed on a couple other threads. If it was taken as criticism, I apologise. I don't see any difficulty being sarky to you on one thread and being civil to you on another...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:54 PM
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46. Me neither!
I'm glad you're neither thin-skinned nor a grudge holder. :hug:
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KingOfLostSouls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:03 PM
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29. you're not a real democrat
just remember that.

according to divisive dennis only he and his ilk (and his buddy ron paul) are REAL democrats
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:30 PM
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36. One can say good things about a philosophical opposite
but not endorse most of what they stand for. I will do such also. Paul votes against sell out trade deals, opposes Nation building and deceitful wars, worries about the First Amendment and an imperial presidency. There is much to like about Paul. Most Republicans don't like him either. That is positive. The whole Paul for VP thing was much ado about nothing. No one took it serious. To bad lots of Democrats do not listen to the FEW things Ron Paul has gotten right.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:53 PM
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15. He's fighting the corporate MSM at the moment, among other things.
Always the good fight. I support him no matter what happens.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3988643&mesg_id=3988643
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:09 PM
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34. The freeprs push him out of the party
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 04:18 PM by cyclezealot
I likely would leave too. He rallies for all thats right. Single payer, does his job unlike most Democrats in Congress and votes against the Patriot act and the Iraq war. His opposion to Nafta would have saved the US three million jobs . And we wonder why the Democratic Congress has low ratings. Because they don't listen to Kucinich. Those who turn on Kucinich. Likely jealousy due to his hard work and honesty. They can't deal with Politicans who don't turn their back on our interests. Bizarre. I know.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 04:04 PM
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30. How many fingers and toes do you have?
Yep, that should be enough.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:10 PM
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43. one percent or less
A good percentage of his supporters seem to be exiting stage right and heading for Edwards. Might have gotten three percent otherwise.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 05:52 PM
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45. I'm curious as to when Kucinich will be mentioned today.
Might have to wait until tomorrow's paper to see his percentage figure.
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