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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:10 PM
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Edwards had very bad result
I'm not trying to be mean but I think he is done as far as the nomination is concerned. He needed to do better than this.

I understand he won't drop out but its going to be tough for him from now on.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:10 PM
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1. How can he be done. I give him till Super Tuesday. No need to push him out.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:12 PM
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5. Edwards has been pushing for the race to be winnowed down. nt
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:14 PM
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16. I'm thinking of the people. I he's thinking of more time in debates.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:19 PM
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31. I like his idea of only including the relevant candidates in the next debates. nt
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:11 PM
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2. And this from someone
who one day ago was jumping HRC's grave?
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:11 PM
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3. He needs to attack Barackary Cliboma
They've both gone pretty corporate, and I think his message might resonate.
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:11 PM
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4. He's gonna keep....
splitting the vote until Hilary the nomination.
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:12 PM
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6. edwards is my first choice
but i'm expecting him to be gone by the time we vote here in texas
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:12 PM
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7. Oh, please.
He did fine, all things considered.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:12 PM
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8. Not necessarily
I think he placed well considering that all the noise for the past four days has been Hillary! Obama! Hillary! Obama! If Hillary wins and they are all scratching their heads, he might get another look.

It also shows that different states have different issues.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:32 PM
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36. Not the noise in NH
I live near the border in VT and Edwards got plenty of coverage where it counts.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:12 PM
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9. NH is not the most liberal of Dem states.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:14 PM
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15. I noticed that
It appears to me that "independent" is a code word for hard ass Republican-and neo-Republican (but don't call me Republican!!!!) look at McCain and Hillary.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:26 PM
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24. NH used to go lean Republican until more recent cycles.
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Midwestern Democrat Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:14 PM
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27. I've always thought NH was a lousy state to have this much influence in
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:26 PM by Midwestern Democrat
Democratic presidential primaries - its electorate isn't reflective of the broad Democratic coalition - it's too skewed to the upscale and well educated for our party's good - the priorities of such voters aren't always in line with the needs of our traditional constituencies. Based on past history, Edwards most certainly would have skipped this state if not for its outsized influence on our nominating process.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:20 PM
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29. NH has a conservative history. Things do not change over night there.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:24 PM
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32. Very conservative state and his Southernness was not a plus. /nt
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:13 PM
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10. Edwards would make a GREAT VP!!!!!
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:21 PM
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30. Edwards would make a better president.
He is one who is talking about real change.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:28 PM
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33. Got to get REAL. Edwards just isn't getting the numbers he needs to win the Presidency.
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:28 PM by Double T
Wish it were different.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:13 PM
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11. Not ready to write John off yet.
Obama and Hillary are getting the media oxygen, but there's still plenty of campaigning yet to be done.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:13 PM
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12. Not a great result, but he was never terribly strong up there.
He's definitely under the gun in SC and Nevada now.

I hope he stays in no matter how the rest of the primaries go. The country (and particularly the other candidates) NEED to hear his message and be influenced by it.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:13 PM
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13. Damn, quinnox, I expect much more sophisticated analysis from you.
You're can do better. Let's have a race. No one needs to drop out after 2 states.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:15 PM
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17. he doesnt have to drop
Im just saying this is very bad result for him.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:14 PM
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14. Edwards had a very good result. His numbers increased by 9 percentage points in 10 days....
Edwards has what in funds? 10% of the funds Obama and Hillary each do?

Also, everyone said for over a year that Hillary Clinton that she would be the clear "winner" since she was married to Bill Clinton and has the support of corporations and the rich. Nobody said Edwards would win, and he's hated by corporations and the rich.

Obama, since Oprah's endorsement, has been the real winner in all this.
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shoopnyc Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:15 PM
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18. Edwards mistake was throwing in with Obama...
during the debate. It was well, tasteless.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:17 PM
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20. Why was it "tasteless?" n/t
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aquaman11173 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:18 PM
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22. Narrowing the field is a great way to be heard!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:31 PM
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35. I agree
He actually pissed me off. Not the first time he's done it. That combined with his comment about Hillary's display of emotion actually caused me to switch to Hillary.
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weeve Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:17 PM
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19. NH
... was Hillary's to lose. She was always expected to win there. Then last week along comes rockstar Obama with all the press, and big MO ... so yeah, while an Edwards 2nd place would've been nice, I certainly never expected it.

The true bummer is that the big Media ( who were calling for John to drop out even after beating Hillary in Iowa ), will now go ballistic. Worse yet, this will make it even harder for his message to get out.
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aquaman11173 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:17 PM
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21. What ever!
John was smart enough to not buy in to the MSM bullshit about Iowa and N.H. There is less than 1.5 million people in N.H. Hardly representative of the General electorate! The next four states FAR out way the upper white class of N.H.

N.H. is mostly Republican ( I.E. voting for the easiest Dem candidate to beat in the general at this point) or at the very least the only way they get away with being independent is because the state primary allows any one to vote the way the want. Hardly representative of how they will vote in the general.

Look at the demographics for N.H. and you'll se the real picture!

http://www.psnh.com/SharePDFs/NHFactBook_Demographics.pdf
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:22 PM
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23. Edwards didn't buy into winning Iowa and NH?
He likely has spent more days in NH in the last 5 years than anyone in race. He spent most of his money there.
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aquaman11173 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:00 PM
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26. Iowa yes ..NOT N.H.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:28 PM
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25. they didnt even mention he came in 2nd last primary n cnn, just bama1st-hill3rd like hes disappeared
they dont want his message to be heard,, censorship, the thugs are stealing this election in the primaries..
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:18 PM
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28. I'd hate to think that two states could seal the deal for any leading candidate.
I hope he can stay in until the last state is done. It ain't over till it's over.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:29 PM
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34. Two states out of .....how many? nt
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