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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:52 AM Original message |
"I'm for war as a last resort." |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. If they found WMD in Iraq |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. And, supposedly, Kerry thought that there was WMD. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. No |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 07:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It is simple, sorry you cannot grasp it. |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. quaker bill: |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Soundbite |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Dang, quakerbill, you knocked that one clear out of the park! |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Four years, no inspectors in Iraq |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Two words: Hussein Kamel |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. There's one opinion. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
77. Ritter Sept 1998 |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. At which point I simply question his basic intelligence. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Aquart the Clairvoyant |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Oh bullshit |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 06:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Actually several experts knew |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Of course Kerry's response to the CIA's 1998 finding of no WMD |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Forget Aquart. How about Will Pitt and Scott Ritter? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Oddly enough it was Will's book |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. And of course if they did not find weapons |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Actually, Ritter was kicked out before he could complete his job |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. He wasn't "kicked out" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Same thing man |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Not the same thing |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. That was over the invasion of Kuwait |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Most anybody who had ANY knowledge of the WMDs Saddam had |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Complete courage . . . |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm anti-gun - anti-NRA |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Then grab a gun and head for Pyongyang |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Well, does your pet have WMD's? |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Some dogs will bury anything. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. Your Position Does not compute |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. No he isn't necessarily against all war, by his statement. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
73. No, what this means is that FOR IRAQ (not ALL war- nice try |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. If that's what you want to hear, then yes, it's a pro-war position. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Pacifist position? |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Kerry wanted peace. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Homilies about being prepared for war |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. It has plenty to do with Iraq. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. He meant that the whole world had a chance |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. It has nothing to do with Iraq |
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Monte Carlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I reiterate, the homily had plenty to do with Iraq. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Well, then |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Excerpts from floor statements before the IWR vote |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I watched that speech live |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The subject of the thread was that war as a last resort meant pro-war |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You're right |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Pope says war in Iraq should only be last resort |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. No, the Pope was speaking of war in general |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. What's the difference? It didn't indicate that he was pro-war. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. What? |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I'm fuzzy too Charlie. |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Thank you, bigtree |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. No apologies necessary |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. yeah, and our spineless senators didn't have to vote for it , either |
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no name no slogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Hmm, maybe I better start fcuking for virginity then? (nt) |
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tameszu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
76. Oh, please be a bit more mature than this |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. Kick for response #30 |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'll say it's fair enough if it's honest. |
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SeekerofTruth (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
47. Problem is...What is Last Resort? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I think it has something to do with imminent danger. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. In what ways did he not comply - specifically? |
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SeekerofTruth (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Supposed to produce documentation |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. it is a pro war position |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. So, any war = all wars to you? |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I didn't see anyone say anything about justified wars |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. O.k., maybe I took a lot of this literaly. |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
57. 'Last resort 'means you only go to war if you have to. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. What all of the Senators and Congresspersons should |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Nobody believes that. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
74. Kerry thought there were WMD, which is why he voted |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
63. What's wrong with that? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. There's a difference between "pro-war" and "pro-resolution" |
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BruinAlum (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
65. No. Pro-war is war as the first resort or only option. War as last resort |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. It's a pro-Iraq-war position. |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Military action can be employed in concert with the U.N. short of war. |
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Scott Lee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
71. Please don't confuse John - he's busy equivocating |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm still right. nt |
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