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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:16 AM
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Skinner/Elad how about a "strategy/analysis" discussion forum with tighter rules?
I know I should do this in a PM to you guys but I wanted to present it to the larger group.

I would like to propose a "strategy/analysis" discussion forum for folks who want to discuss the issues (in the immediate future the elections) in a flame free environment. There have been many times I have wanted to raise certain issues but have not because of the flame wars that would ensue.

I would not want to see stricter rules on General Discussion: Politics, but just a new forum where participants adhere to a stricter code of conduct. There have been so many times I have just wanted to have an honest discussion with other DUers about candidates, strategy and controversial subjects but knew in the current environment it would just lead to a flame fest.

Am I alone in this?

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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:19 AM
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1. No, you are not alone.
This drive-by paintballing is infuriating whenever a serious topic is brought up or discussed.

But frankly, I do not know how it could be enforced.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:24 AM
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8. we would have to use the alert button
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:25 AM by Perky
Be our own mods. It can be done...but we would have to lay out out groundrules that everyone agreed upon.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:21 AM
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2. nope, not alone
I can think of a few hypotheticals that would be interesting to discuss but not worth the flames.

It's fun to get emotionally invested in a campaign but there is a time to view it as an intellectual exercise and it would be nice to have a place for that discussion.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:23 AM
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3. Yes I had some issues I wanted to raise for greater insight and to see what others had to say. . .
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:34 AM by wndycty
. . .but it concerned another candidate. I was afraid it would immediately become a flame fest.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:32 AM
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4. I think that's a great idea. nt
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:36 AM
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5. Enthusiatically. Folks who want this should recommend and kick
I would camp out on a board like that every day.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 AM
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6. excellent idea
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:56 AM
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7. YES PLEASE!
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:40 AM
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9. Not at all alone....
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:41 AM
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10. Great idea!
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:42 AM
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11. I'd be down with that.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:58 AM
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12. The candidate forums are set up for that, I think.
We're having a good time in the JE Group :D
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:06 PM
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15. I think we are talking about a cross candidate forum though
focues on process and strategy rather than advocacy.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:08 PM
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17. The only problem with that is I want to talk to supporters of other candidates. . .
. . .and I want to talk to those supporters who can take and make constructive criticism of all candidates without being defensive or divisive.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:16 PM
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18. But what about those of us w/o a candidate
or with three of them?
If I want to discuss scenarios of what a candidate possible strategy might be going forward but don't want to be viewed as rah-rah-rah with that group or a flamefest with the other groups, then what?

For example, there's a thread about whether Edwards should drop out after 2 losses. Discounting the merits of the question, you can at least see there's going to be little substantive in GD:politics with partitians on both sides gaming for the best angle for their horse in race- and trying to ask a question like that in the candidate forums would be pretty predictable.

So how about a 'agnostic'-candidate strategy forum.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:04 PM
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22. I think modest adcocacy can't be avoided. but
Discussion about the next tilt, polls, prognostications, stump speec element. who a candidate is appealing to, how media is covering running mates, what the GOP is doing, etc can all be done without being flamebait.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:05 PM
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13. I Pm'd most of the folks on the list but this is wndycty's idea
It has been suggested that we get this tread moved to the congress forum.


That would be up to WC.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:06 PM
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14. You are not alone...
I am tired of coming here and reading and defending against Drudge-style led narrative.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:07 PM
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16. That would be fantastic!
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:18 PM
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19. I'm all for it.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:20 PM by JohnnyLib2
Good post. Recommended.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:03 PM
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20. good idea, but
i think it needs some clear guidelines for what is NOT allowed.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:42 PM
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28. Oh most definitely. . .
. . .I think the rules in the forum I proposed should be a lot stricter and the mods have the ability to ban someone from the forum w/o tombstoning them from DU.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:04 PM
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21. the mud wrestling is fun
I'll stay here.
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DivorcingNeo Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:06 PM
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23. I don't think...
there is such a thing as flame free debate on this forum. It's just my opinion.

People are too emotionally charged about their beliefs and passions to not cross the line from time to time.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:43 PM
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26. I think the idea of the forum is to have a place where intellect and reason trump passion
If GD-P is the mosh pit then this would be the ivory tower. I am not suggesting that GD-P is a bad forum. It is what it is..both for advocacy and derision. There is a need for some space to discuss things in a way that does not lead down the same path as the majority of the thraads on GD-P
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:07 PM
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24. So you are saying you want a forum where you can throw flame
bait and then not get flamed?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:37 PM
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25. umm no....the forum would be flaime bait free as well
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:45 PM
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29. Well a lot of threads that could be considered flame bait would not be treated as . . .
. . .flame bait because there might be legitimate points raised. I have seen OPs that turned into flame wars that could have been led to quality debates if those posting in the threads didn't exhibit knee jerk reactions.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:51 PM
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27. I HAVE OPENED A THREAD on the CONGRESS FORUM (Link)
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:51 PM
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30. Sounds like you need a gated community to keep out the riff-raff. nt
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:36 PM
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31. do as a previous poster suggests...post a set of strict guidelines and then open your forum.
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