I think John Edwards attacking Hillary the past few days, especially at the debate, helped Hillary

TeamJordan23

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Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 AM
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I think John Edwards attacking Hillary the past few days, especially at the debate, helped Hillary

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:57 AM by TeamJordan23

and cost Obama the win.

Thanks Edwards!

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Fresh_Start

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Wed Jan-09-08 11:56 AM
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1. Obama got 38% Iowa and 37% New Hampshire

given the college kids didn't show up in comparable numbers: Obama got effectively the same result

Edwards had 30% in Iowa and 17% in New Hampshire. Looks like Edwards hurt Edwards not Obama.

Do you have any facts to support your claim?

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Colobo

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Wed Jan-09-08 11:57 AM
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3. Exactly. Edwards hurt himself.

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karynnj

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:06 PM
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8. He could have done both, but the numbers can't prove it

But Edwards never had the support in NH that he had in Iowa. He did not spend the same amount of time there in either 2004 or 2008.

In fact, you could make the case that he got 12% last time and 17% this time in NH; while it was 32%(2004) to 30% (2008) in Iowa.

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TeamJordan23

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:18 PM
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10. By hurt, I meant that it cost Obama the victory. I re-phrased. nm

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Fresh_Start

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:23 PM
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12. Please remind what accomplishments Obama

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:26 PM by NYCALIZ

has that should have led to Obama's victory?

I know he talks pretty but can you list any accomplishments or risks he's taken.

Maybe New Hampshire is more skeptical of a saleman?

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Joe Chi Minh

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Wed Jan-09-08 11:56 AM
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2. He and Diebold, eh?

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:56 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII

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Der Blaue Engel

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Wed Jan-09-08 11:59 AM
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4. How does that even make sense?

This Edwards pile-on is really sickening.

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JDPriestly

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Wed Jan-09-08 11:59 AM
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5. Edwards never polled high in N.H.

He did not poll as high as his highest poll, but he polled considerably higher than his lowest poll. He did well for Edwards in N.H.

Hillary did much worse than her highest N.H. polling. Hillary lost votes since October.

Obama did better than his lowest polling. Obama won votes, lots of them, since October.

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karynnj

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:03 PM
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6. You may be right if the pundits are right about the sympathy factor

HRC herself attacked Obama as hard or harder than he attacked her. It was the fact that it was seen as Obama and Edwards attacking that might have made it seem unfair.

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midnight

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:04 PM
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7. No, I don't think so. Because there is a bit of a small problem

with your deduction. John Edward's message, no matter what it is, receives very little play time. There must be another factor. Give it another think through!

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TeamJordan23

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:17 PM
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9. His message (and attacks) during the debate recieved plenty of airtime. nm

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PresidentObama

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Wed Jan-09-08 12:21 PM
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11. Blaming Edwards for your candidates loss?

Ok. Can I blame last nights third place finish on Chris Dodd or Joe Biden?

Who cares that they aren't in the race. I'm using your own logic of blaming everyone else for a loss.

If Edwards attacking Hillary hurt anyone, it was himself.

Not Obama. Obama is capable of speaking for himself, and he did.

I've always held the position Hillary was going to win New Hampshire, up until last week. She's got a strong base there. And it looks like they came out to vote!!

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