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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:50 PM
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Looking at exit polls, Obama voters
more likely to believe the economy is good
chose him for his personal qualities
most likely to have no religion or go to church weekly
more rural
more non-union - personally or in the household
less likely to be married females
don't believe debates are as important
are dissatisfied not angry at Bush
less likely to have children
more likely to be college graduate
have more reservations and are less likely to strongly favor their candidate
were Biden supporters
were voting in their first primary
less eager to get troops out of Iraq quickly: more likely to want to keep troops in Iraq
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:53 PM
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1. Overall not what I expected. nt
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:55 PM
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2. What Does This Mean?
most likely to have no religion or go to church weekly.

Obama got both ends of the spectrum but the occasional churchgoer?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:58 PM
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4. occasional church goers didn't go for Obama
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:59 PM by NYCALIZ
the atheists and the highly religious did.
Doesn't make sense to me either.

Other than if you look at other pieces, I think you see more emotional voting for Obama.
He's not as strongly supported by his voters, they have more reservations, but they like his personal characteristics.
They care less about the issues, they know less about the economy, their more indifferent to Iraq and less upset with Bush.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:05 PM
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7. Wait a minute.
Both my brother and sister go to church weekly with their families. (UMC) Neither are highly religious. Both are more standard liberals/progressives into translating their values into deeds, and they do through their churches, which are both very liberal and highly active on social issues.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:08 PM
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8. Do you know what church the exit pollers were talking about?
cause you inferring a lot
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:12 PM
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14. No. You were inferring that all people who attend church weekly
are highly religious. Actually, you flat out said it. I gave you an example that contradicts your assertion. That's it.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:16 PM
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17. I'm sorry so you think that people that attend church every
week are less highly religious than people who attend less frequently or not at all.

Wow
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:34 PM
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19. Oh for fuck's sake. Either you know perfectly well that that wasn't
what I was saying or you're remarkably dim. Let me put this in the simplest of terms for the simplest of minds:

Not all people who attend church weekly are highly religious.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:01 PM
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20. To me, attending church weekly is highly religious
I don't understand your point about your relatives attend weekly but they're not religious.

Church=religion
More church=more religious
less church=less religious



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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:08 PM
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21. Makes sense to me...
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:09 PM by 1corona4u
:-)

Case & Point; I'm not religious at all, and I never go to church.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:12 PM
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13. obama/clinton had identical share of 'very liberal'
in fact they look virtually identical in distribution throughout the political spectrum
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:21 PM
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25. nope. huge age divide
between the youngest and oldest voters.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:24 PM
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26. yes there were age differences
but the self identification on the political orientation were equal on the very liberal and only 1 percent apart on the conservative

Age does not translate into political orientation
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:29 PM
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28. there is something to be said about the "Emotional Vote" ...
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:34 PM by indimuse
I posted something about it a couple of weeks ago. Obama moves people in a very exciting way..His whole theatre is different...People DO want something different...but a lot of the young people he attracts, would not be able have intelligent dialogue (I'm talking Politico's!) on a multitude of issues that define what "different" is .... He's not my guy...YET...but..He's a Rock Star...


This will continue to be an amazing ride ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~


edit: spelling...my bad. hehe ...bad again.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:58 PM
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3. Interesting... do you have a source?
Some of these points are worth examining.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:58 PM
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5. CNN exit polls
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:59 PM
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6. Three standouts for me... more non-union - personally or in the household

have more reservations and are less likely to strongly favor their candidate

less eager to get troops out of Iraq quickly: more likely to want to keep troops in Iraq

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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:10 PM
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9. "More likely to believe the economy is good."
What are these people smoking?
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:14 PM
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16. the same stuff
that makes them see Obama as a savior
I think its called charisma

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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:17 PM
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18. Let's hope he doesn't try to keep his supporters' votes.
Last thing I want is policy decided by non-union people who think the economy is good, want to keep troops in Iraq, and vote emotionally with no concern for policy.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:11 PM
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10. Wow, what a mixed bag -- doesn't seem to be much of a pattern there
I could see if, say, one candidate got married, rural, not-as-educated church goers, or something, but this is all over the map.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:11 PM
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11. Exit polls for Obama voters
Is it me, or do these voters sound like dyed-in-the-wool republicans?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:12 PM
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12. One thing this mean s, more educated higher income voters
prefer Obama. This has been reported on CNN during the Campaign.

However, there are millions more people who are working class not
as highly educated.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:14 PM
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15. I think thats a product of the age distribution
younger people more likely to be college education
older people especially older women less likely to be college education

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:10 PM
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22. What a crock.
Who did they poll? Crossover Rs? I am an Obama supporter...

more likely to believe the economy is good -- hell, no! I'm unemployed.
chose him for his personal qualities -- Personal qualities are important, such as integrity, for exampl.
most likely to have no religion or go to church weekly -- this doesn't even make sense
more rural - I'm rural and we've been forgotten.
more non-union - personally or in the household
less likely to be married females -- I'm a married female.
don't believe debates are as important -- I'm glued to the set when debates are on.
are dissatisfied not angry at Bush -- * makes me livid!
less likely to have children -- I have two, and grandkids too.
more likely to be college graduate -- Yup
have more reservations and are less likely to strongly favor their candidate -- What the hell does this mean?
were Biden supporters -- Nope
were voting in their first primary -- We had lots of young people and others here in Iowa caucusing for the first time.
less eager to get troops out of Iraq quickly: more likely to want to keep troops in Iraq -- This sounds like a crock too.

And I could give you a list of friends and relatives who supported Obama and for whom most of these characterizations are a crock.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:14 PM
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24. It's based on poll data not anecdotal evidence.
Attack the poll's methodology, don't counter with personal experience. Glad you're against this stuff.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:11 PM
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23. well, as for me
I think the economy sucks
I like his personal qualities
I am not practicing any religion
I live in the suburbs
I'm non-union, and live in a non-union house
I'm not a married female
I believe debates are important, but not everything
I'm angry at Bush
I don't have kids
I'm a college graduate
I strongly favor my candidate
I liked Biden, but not over Obama
If I voted, it wouldn't have been my first time
I want the troops out quickly
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:14 PM
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27. Individual supporters can be different
but I highlighted where Obama voters as a group differed.

Every group is split between the candidates.
The methodology looks at the proportion of the group which supports a specific candidate.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:37 PM
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29. Those are some scary attributes (Bush-lite).
more likely to believe the economy is good
more non-union - personally or in the household
less likely to be married females
don't believe debates are as important
are dissatisfied not angry at Bush
less likely to have children
have more reservations and are less likely to strongly favor their candidate
were voting in their first primary
less eager to get troops out of Iraq quickly: more likely to want to keep troops in Iraq

I doubt Hillary Clinton voters are much better. But the economy good? It sounds like they are younger voters who have never experienced a serious recession before, and maybe a bit conservative. No anger at Bush for the war?

I'd like to see the other candidates exit poll data to compare.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:42 PM
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30. Going into this thing it'd be nice to have Paper receipted voting machines, as
it is now, the elections cannot be verified.
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