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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:23 PM
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What is Edwards path to the nomination?
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 01:24 PM by Bleachers7
I asked this last week and got some plausible scenarios. The best one, and the one Edwards used was to ride the Obama wave, push out Hillary, and take a shot. That is all out the window now. I see people saying there are 48 states left. So, what is Edwards path to nomination? This should be an easy question for Edwards supporters.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:25 PM
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1. First it was Iowa. Then it was ride the wave, and push Hillary out of the way.
Now....??

I don't know. Hold on for a bumpy ride, and fight like hell.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:26 PM
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2. Now, now, that wasn't very nice.
Funny, but not nice.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:27 PM
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3. Feb 5th
Will be the day of days...............:hi:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:27 PM
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4. I think it will be the end of days
for Edwards.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:30 PM
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That certainly looks like the key.
Actually, it's the key for all of the candidates. Somebody's out on 2/6 or shortly thereafter.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:30 PM
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5. Massive, undeniable populist outpouring by the people
Overwhelming show of support for retaking the government by THE PEOPLE

JE can inspire, speak truth to power, lead, but he alone will not deliver us out of the clutches of the corporations. No one person can. Democracy is NOT a spectator sport.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:30 PM
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6. Clinton and Obama both dropping out.
Edwards is great, but I am not delusional. He really went all in in Iowa to get the 1st slot. 2nd won't cut it.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:33 PM
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8. Well, it's not even that. Second in Iowa left him able to compete...
It's his after-Iowa strategy that backfired.

He thought by making it change vs. status quo, and presenting himself and Obama as the change candidates..he could some how bump Hillary out of the race and make it a two person race.

I said it was risky, and it didn't pay off.

Edwards "bullying" Clinton at the debate combined with what I thought was a very phony 'emotional' moment really turned things around for her, and thus she won and Edwards was so distant in his third place finish.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:50 PM
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20. I guess I agree. Winning Iowa was all it took for Kerry to get the nomination
so I don't blame him for thinking winning Iowa would give him a major boost. But not only did he fail to win, but he was really close to 3rd if you look at the decimal points. I was pretty sure that it wouldn't give him a boost anywhere, and it hasn't.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:31 PM
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7. There is no path for Edwards unless
there's a huge scandal or mistep. His only path is through misfortune striking either Obama or Clinton. It's beginning to remind me of a certain knight in a movie.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:34 PM
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9. I think you're right. Edwards is only in the race still because he knows neither has a lock.
And if they both start to make mistakes, he can jump in and make a splash.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:38 PM
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12. Not only that. This is a LOOOOONG campaign.
It is not inconceivable that the public will begin to fatigue from overexposure to the Clinton/Obama dichotomy in 24/7 drama coverage.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:34 PM
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10. What exactly is your problem with all the Edwards bashing, anyway?

If you are a supporter of one of the others, you should be supporting your favorite with positive messaging.


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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:36 PM
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11. Since when is asking for strategy bashing?
It's a fair question to ask what his path to nomination is. I got some good answers the last time I asked.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:39 PM
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14. Because it gives you a chance to repeat over and over your own opinion
of how you think "it's over" for JE.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:42 PM
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15. Since when is asking for strategy bashing?
I didn't put that in my OP.
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:44 PM
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17. I never said you did put it in your OP. What diff does that make?
You still use the threads to continually repeat your own mantra of how the end is near.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:52 PM
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21. Is it untrue?
I'm looking for answers. I bought into the last strategy. Is there anything left? What are they thinking?
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:59 PM
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25. Who knows? It's a primary. It just started. There is no answer yet. Why do you ask, anyway?
Why are you looking exactly?

Opposition research?

Pardon my cynicism but it seems very odd to be so "concerned" with the strategy of a candidate you do not seem to support.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:15 PM
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27. Because if there is no strategy
There's no campaign. Does anyone know where Edwarsd went today? SC, NV, CA, bed?
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:30 PM
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28. Thanks for proving my point.
You just reminded me why I had decided to check out from DU for the primary season.

It's not done yet.

Goodbye.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:34 PM
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29. If you're as concerned about his strategy as you profess to be
I'm wondering why you don't already know the answer to that question.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:47 PM
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19. hogwash
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:38 PM
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13. Focus on a handful of states
and work for some victories on "Super Tuesday." With some first place victories, he might actually be able to receive more attention from the media- well, it's at least possible. I think continuing to fight and working to get his message out is the best option.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:59 PM
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33. What states can he come in better than 3rd?
Let alone win outright?

On Super Tuesday or otherwise?

I don't think there are any.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:42 PM
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16. Why don't you get concerned about your candidate?
You are a one trick pony.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:52 PM
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22. Worry about my candidate?
Do I need to repost your stuff from earlier today?
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:46 PM
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18. Double murder?
(I hope that's not considered tasteless, just trying to keep spirits light).
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:54 PM
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32. took my line - I was thinking more like "Clinton shoots Obama", but you got the idea. n/t
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:59 PM
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23. He was sooo stupid
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:00 PM by sunonmars

He should have railed on Obama thats the only way he is ever going to pull up his vote. His vote target is Obama, so thats where he should have been landing the punches.

Besides as he couldnt even take his own state in 04, i dont hold out much hope
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:40 PM
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31. No Matter... He Has Super LOYAL Supporters Here & I For One Will
never desert him! To the end, strategy or not, when I SEE with my own eyes, day in and day out just TWO Democrats being touted and pushed upon me, I KNOW in my heart the reason why!

Other Americans can follow as they have in the past, but THIS time around it's EDWARDS or NOTHING!

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:59 PM
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24. Staying in and saying over and over again what neither of the others is saying enough
And some miraculous turn of the tide in the awareness of voters.

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jmellman Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:13 PM
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26. When neither Hillary or Barack has enough delegates
It is quite possible that neither Hillary or Barack ends up with a majority of the delegates going into the convention. In that case, Edwards will have proven his mettle by staying in and having about 20% of the delegates committed to him. What would the convention do then?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:01 PM
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34. Then no one would win on the first ballot.
IIRC the top two move onto the second ballot, and delegates can vote as they wish.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:39 PM
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30. It depends on an increase in public awareness, and that's a long shot
with the M$M playing the Hillary-Obama two-horse story. The corporate world wants both this story as an entertainment as well as the assurance that a corporate-friendly candidate (Hillary-Obama) will prevail.

Edwards will need to sustain energy long enough for the truth about corporatism to come into general public currency.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:01 PM
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35. Ask the nominee if you can run for VP again
Then you will be nominatedfor vice president, because he is not winning the election as president.
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