??? --- NBC's Brian Williams will host Nevada debate but does not know how to pronounce Nevada

LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:26 PM
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??? --- NBC's Brian Williams will host Nevada debate but does not know how to pronounce Nevada

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:38 PM by LVZ

I wonder why East Coast media types don't pronounce:

The nation's first primary: New Hamp-shy're

The capital city of the nation's first caucus: Dez Moynes, Iowa

Barack Obama's home state: Illi-noise

I guess that they would be ashamed of their ignorance and might take the time to correct it.

Then again, East Coast news media arrogance is nothing new to those west of the Mississippi.

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:27 PM
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1. I wonder how many candidates will be able to say it correctly as well.

It could be a good test.

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enlightenment

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:38 PM
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5. Edwards says it right, or at least he did this evening.

I think I've heard HRC say it correctly but slip with the dreaded Ne-VAH-da; at least she's trying. Haven't heard Obama say it yet; I suspect he'll get it right (he seems as careful with the details of political pandering as the rest of them).

One day I'll live in a state that doesn't get mispronounced. First it was CAUL-o-RAH-doe and now it's Ne-VAH-da. sigh.

And I live in LAS Vegas, not LOS Vegas - and I don't live in a hotel. Really.

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Honeycombe8

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:33 PM
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2. How did he pronounce Nevada? You know there are 2 correct pronunciations? nt

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LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:40 PM
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6. Yes the English (American) way and if you are speaking Spanish, the Spanish way n/t

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Honeycombe8

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Thu Jan-10-08 07:51 PM
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23. There's Ne-VAH-da and Ne-VA-da (VA as in hat). Both are right, I think. nt

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MadBadger

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:35 PM
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3. My God, Nevaaaaaaaahdaains need to get over it.

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Cooley Hurd

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:37 PM
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4. Perhaps I'm not gettiing it, but...

...isn't Nevada pronounced NEH-VAH-DAH? And, isn't Des Moines pronounced "Dehmoine?" Of course, Illinois is pronounced "Ill-in-oy?"

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calico1

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:41 PM
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7. Oh please. A lot of people not from the East

mispronounce cities, towns, etc. from the East all the time.

How do you pronouce: Worcester?

People mispronounce names of places they are not from all the time. I guess news people should learn better but I don't believe it is done purposely, just to piss people from that area off.

Brian Williams stated that there are two different pronunciations for "Nevada" so I don't know about that one.

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LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:42 PM
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8. Two ways? yes, the right way and the wrong way. n/t

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LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:00 PM
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12. I have no problem pronouncing Worcester correctly but ..

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:00 PM by LVZ

Nevada, "a state", is much larger than a smallish city in Massachusetts, don't you think?

I already provided state examples: New Hampshire and Illinois. No American considered very educated would mispronounce these states even though the spelling might suggest a different "natural" English pronunciation. Why is it different for Nevada and Colorado? Short answer: Eastern provincialism.

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calico1

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:25 PM
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19. I think newscastes, public servants, etc.

should learn correct regional pronunciations.
I am Hispanic myself and I have lived all my life hearing people absolutely kill Spanish surnames, for example. All the time. Educated people. And they are not all from the East.:hi:

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Ediacara

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:16 PM
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16. Worcester might be helped by changing the spelling

/'wʊ.stə/

Where'd the r and c go?

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calico1

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:22 PM
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18. There are no "r"'s in Mass.

:) A good part, anyway.

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asdjrocky

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:45 PM
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9. Brian Williams!

He's so dreamy.

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LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:46 PM
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10. How to pronounce Nevada - "now hear this"

http://ideaboomer.com/wave-player.html?nevada.wav (listen link)

http://ideaboomer.com/nevada.wav (source wav file)

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la la

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Wed Jan-09-08 08:52 PM
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11. you haven't lived until you've heard an

*easterner* pronounce Sepulveda!!!111!!!!

la la in LA

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Bucky

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:06 PM
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13. A high society lady meets a farmboy at a party and they exchange greetings...

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:07 PM by Bucky

After a few moments chatting, the high society lady asks the young man, "So, my dear, I notice you have a western accent. Where exactly are you from?"

He answers, "I'm from Iowa, ma'am."

The lady gives a little titter and replies with a haughty tone, "Oh, bless you, my dear. But around here we pronounce it 'Ohio'."

My point being the fault lies not with Brian Williams but with those broke down cow pokes who can't even pronounce the name of their own state correctly.

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itsrobert

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:09 PM
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14. I thought that was Tom Brokaw. Don't tell me Brian Williams is the same?

n/t

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LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:36 PM
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21. --->>> a few news media folks - right vs wrong <<<---

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:13 PM by LVZ

A sampling of national media folks - how do they rate?

Good - these folks get it ...

MSNBC: Keith Olbermann, Contessa Brewer, Norah O'Donnell, Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Lee Cowan

CNN: Wolf Blitzer, Candy Crowley, Richard Lui, Veronica De La Cruz

FOX: Shepard Smith, Major Garrett, Greg Jarrett

Lazy - these folks don't ...

NBC: Tom Brokaw, Brian Williams

MSNBC: Dan Abrams, Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, Alex Witt, John Harwood

Trying - inconsistent but at least they try ...

MSNBC: David Shuster, Tucker Carlson

Why not add to this list? Perhaps I could compile and send it to the networks to encourage a little more "journalistic research". It is ironic that people like Brokaw probably pronounce Kazakhstan correctly more often than they do Nevada and Colorado.

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Ediacara

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:12 PM
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15. Say it like this:

/nə'v�.də/

Or, if you're actually speaking Spanish, /ne'βa.də/. The Eastern pronunciation of /nə'vaː.də/ isn't right.

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Berry Cool

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:19 PM
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17. I hope the OP never gets a job on TV

because if so, I'm going to give a little test.

Can you pronounce:

--Mentor, Ohio
--Canandaigua, New York
--Nunda, New York
--Bergen, New York
--Gallipolis, Ohio
--Conneaut, Ohio

If not, you're not allowed to call yourself a news anchor. :sarcasm:

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calico1

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:28 PM
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20. I had kind of been trying to make that point.

That regional pronunciations are not always obvious to outsiders.

I do think newscasters who are seen all over the country should make their best effort. But I do think unintentional errors will always happen. And I don't think it has to do with snobbery or anything like that. If you are not familiar with a region you are just not going to be familiar with certain pronunciations.

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LVZ

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Wed Jan-09-08 09:53 PM
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22. Since when did these small towns become American states?

Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:56 PM by LVZ

How many Senators do they have? How many electoral votes? How often are they in the national news media?

Ridiculous post - apples versus oranges or more like a single apple versus an orange grove.

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