She's still milking her crying jag for all its worth

Tell me again how this wasn't part of a planned stratergy.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/09/clinton-tearing-up-coul_n_80643.html

Hillary Clinton also agreed that choking up helped her campaign in New Hampshire:

Clinton attributed her win in part to her success late in the race in telling voters why she's in public life, a reference to her choking up when a voter asked her how she was faring. Asked whether that was a turnaround for her, she said, "I think it could well have been.

Keep reading.

The media agrees with her.

otherwise this is just a slime piece --but why should that be surprising?

I mean, you more or less just admitted that it was part of her strategy

of being asked personal questions-----she had begun to have 'conversations' rather than stump speeches where she does most of talking.
She got asked a question that was obviously close to her.
She teared up/chocked up --got a big lump in her throat as she responded. Simple as that.
Nothing preplanned about it.

I pointed out in an earlier post that enemies of HC keep referring to her having a "crying jag," when in fact, she didn't cry at all. Her eyes got misty and there was a small crack in her voice momentarily. As opposed to Bush Sr., who uncontrollably wept into his microphone last year.

BTW, I'm an Obama supporter. It does NO GOOD to demonize an opponent. It reflects badly on your candidate.

Folks, I...an Obama supporter....do NOT think that Clinton's emotional moment was anything other than genuine. And I so totally related to it, as well, having had a few such moments myself. I could tell it was real. And that moment might well have given her the big win of the state.

Now, if we see it again and again, that's a different matter. (Of course, we all understand that Romney is apparently going to be crying at teh drop of every hat.)

Not that I'll fight you for the rights to it or anything.

That's typical Wolsh, not a single tear rolled down her face.

I :puke: on your spin.

Though it sounds like your the one crying after tuesday night.

*She* owns the news stations now? They're the ones talking about it. I didn't hear about it from her.

Grow up. Guess your mother didn't teach you any manners.

It isn't helping anything. It's just politics. It's life. Fair is the thing that comes in August - or October if you live on the Pacific Coast.

nt

I dont doubt at all that this was a huge factor in her victory.

before the polls opened:

"am curious as to why you don't credit the HUGE amount of free media beginning with nightly news broadcasts, presumably local news at 11 (I don't know as I didn't see), and all of 's morning programs leading with the emotional moment?"

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/



I've always thought that it was the 60 Minutes interview that won Clinton the nomination in 1992. It set him apart from the rest of the pack by making him a national figure.

Who was it that said there is no such thing as bad publicity?

One would really have had to be living under a rock not to see it a hundred times. I personally know several people who switched their vote to her because they "felt bad". Everyone here knew it would effect the outcome. We just didnt realize how much.

Their word, not mine

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4016658

and then Bill will break out an old school "I feel your pain!".

I'm starting to believe this cry was a strategy. The lady asked her about how she does her hair and then she starts talking about how hard whatever is and starts all the crying. This was totally planned. At firt I thought she was just tired and frustrated with campaigning and had to weep, but the lady asked her about her hair. Her hair! And Hillary starts the waterworks. Amazing.

I find it quite telling that no one will show the beginning and end of the crying video. Because the beginning and end show how planned this whole thing was.

And now Bill was weeping after she won? Lord, these people are scum.

nt

I think it was all bunched into one response.

It's flamebait..but you knew that when you posted it.

What makes this post flame bait? HILLARY, not me, is still talking about this. It's a fair conversation to continue to have.

You did NOT post it to "continue discussion" because if you had, you wouldn't have deliberately used terms that you know pisses off Hillary supporters, like calling it a crying jag and accusing her of milking her story. She's not, YOU are. No one is fooled by you. Now, begone. Yet ANOTHER worthy addition to my ignore list.

The leader of the free world may have been decided by this stunt (I doubt it, but it is possible). There is NOTHING wrong with continuing to talk about it.

What was significant about "the tearing up" wasn't whether she did cry or didn't, or whether she planned to cry or didn't plan to cry, but that so many of us in the public don't see her as genuine and so we suspect her of strategizing everything.

There are people like her husband who are natural born campaigners. And then there are people who aren't. And they look less genuine than those gifted at it.

And those not born with that gift have a harder time. Until they learn to just not care - which I guess would be rather hard to pull off when you are running to be President.

The whole thing really is unbelievable (including you continuing to post about it)

talk about it?

:kick:

My sister called today and said that she had changed her mind about Hillary because of the "crying thing". I asked her if she changed her mind on Hillary's Middle East policies or anything else that made her oppose Hillary and she said "no". WTF? Was this a calculated event? Are some women so stupid to change their minds about the most important position in this country over a perceived sense of vulnerability? Hillary was frustrated and exhausted and if it were a male candidate there would be no issue about it either. Same goes for the out of left field question during the debate about likability. If the question were asked of a male there would be no issue about it except that it would still be a stupid question. Barak's response and look seemed more annoyance about the question than 'belittling' Hillary. I don't care if Hillary is considered a cold calculating bitch...I can handle that. I cannot handle the pity factor. My sister's reaction was the same as quite a few women that I work with. This country is going to hell in a handbasket I tell you.

BTW, I thought that some of Hillary's answers during the NH debate were great and she showed a real nuts and bolts understanding of the issues and the process. Now that's a reason to support her.

If she shows some snot bubbles, my vote goes to her.

Make up your mind! Then go dig around for something else to criticize Hillary about. Why don't you tell us why we should vote for your candidate once in awhile? In fact, I don't even remember who you support. I just know you hate Hillary and turned many into supporters. Good job Wolsh! Keep it up!

:eyes:

I didn't click the link, so maybe there's more there. But what's quoted here seems fair.

;)

She should fire their asses!

STFU about my
wife, Wolsh!

:)

Forum Name Hillary Clinton Supporters Group
Topic subject Jon Stewart's reaction to Hillary's 'meltdown': "That's it?"
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x595#595
595, Jon Stewart's reaction to Hillary's 'meltdown': "That's it?"
Posted by rodeodance on Wed Jan-09-08 04:45 PM

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Jon Stewart's reaction to Hillary's 'meltdown': "That's it?"
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4014603#4014603
4014603, Jon Stewart's reaction to Hillary's 'meltdown': "That's it?"
Posted by TwilightZone on Wed Jan-09-08 04:22 PM

"That's it? That's the emotional breakdown that blows the election for her? I'm glad no one here ever sees me get a flu shot," Stewart said.

Bonus footage - Giuliani turns it into 9/11.

Video: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/09/thats-it-jon-stewart-_n_80749.html

Nice links.

Jon Stewart! Thanks for posting :-)

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Why Hillary's "cry" is all about the MSM
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4017268#4017268
4017268, Why Hillary's "cry" is all about the MSM
Posted by usregimechange on Wed Jan-09-08 08:36 PM

I think Hillary's emotionality was a factor in her narrow win in NH but she had no control over the media's choice to bring this to the public over and over. The M$M is a second rate paparazzi.

People may choose to vote for Hillary but if some NH voters voted for her for this reason, it was non-rational media induced and superficial. Imagine if the M$M would have obsessed about Edwards question and answer from Steve Skvara. What, you haven't heard of him? Of course not the #$@!ing media played it once and never mentioned his name.

This is disturbing because the media is controlled by very few and has significant power when it covers one candidate 9 times more than the others. It is like a fat superdelegate, it is an undemocratic corporate aristocracy.