Keith O may think Rush and DK are both 'worsest'...

hertopos

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Thu Jan-10-08 09:35 PM
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Keith O may think Rush and DK are both 'worsest'...

I was watching KO tonight. He picked Rush as the 'worsest' of today...
Reason, because Rush was spreading that Clinton camp committed voting fraud.

Someone in DK camp did not check the final analysis why paper ballots and machine has different results. This is not really about the difference between paper and machine but it is reflecting the different voting patten between big cities and small rural are.

This time, DK really made him look nutty.

I am very curious if Obama supporters would cry voting fraud each time Clinton win.
This is just so low and nutty.

Hertopos

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RaleighNCDUer

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Thu Jan-10-08 09:41 PM
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1. I had not heard anything re: DK.

Was there a difference between the poll projections v/votes dependent upon paper ballots v/ electronic? As with, in 04, those places with paper ballots matched up well with the polls, while those that voted electronically had a wide divergence from the polls.

Maybe you could explain what you're talking about? I've paid no attention to the 'vote fraud NH' because there didn't seem to be anything to it, but if the 04 paper v electronic seems to be playing out, I may have to re-examine that.

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liberaltrucker

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Thu Jan-10-08 09:44 PM
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2. I saw the segment

DK wasn't mentioned.

:shrug:

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stillcool

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Thu Jan-10-08 09:56 PM
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3. Why are you so reluctant ...

to insure an accurate vote count? Do you realize what this could mean for the security of our votes? It could be standardized so that in every election it would be required to verify our votes. What is wrong with that?

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hertopos

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:02 PM
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4. Actually I have no problem with recount if that what DK wants

I gave up on some of Obama supporters nuttiness.
I learned a lot regarding OH in 2004.
Compared to OH, there is absolutely no case in NH.

If you want recount, why not ask Obama to do that.
I just hope you don't cry voting fraud every time Clinton win.

Hertopos

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stillcool

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:28 PM
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5. This is really getting ridiculous...

it is not this election or that election it is every election. What is the problem? Logic and reason would dictate that no election can be considered accurate if no one takes the simple steps to insure the tabulation is correct. Other countries standardize hand-counting a percentage of the vote, and requiring open source code. They assure their citizens that their vote is counted in EVERY election. This is going to happen again, and again, and again..unless people like yourself give a shit about your vote.

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no name no slogan

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:30 PM
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6. Let DK ask for the recount

Worst case scenario is that they don't find anything, and DK goes back to looking like the crazy uncle in the attic.

Best case scenario is that they uncover fraud to expose it in plenty of time before November's election.

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stillcool

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:50 PM
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7. I dont' think

Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 10:52 PM by stillcool47

I don't think that in order for votes to be counted, some candidate needs to ask for a recount. Other countries have standardized practices that insure the integrity of every one of their elections...I don't think because some people don't give a shit about their vote, we should expect less.

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no name no slogan

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:56 PM
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11. No, not him directly...

but it probably goes through the county-level party apparatus, I don't know for sure (I live in a caucus state, and all this going to a voting booth to choose your party's nominee seems a bit foreign).

DK is in a position where he can push for this kind of thing without it affecting any of the so-called frontrunners.

IMHO I don't think there was any fraud, but if somebody wants to investigate it, more power to 'em.

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stillcool

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Thu Jan-10-08 11:06 PM
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12. I get so frustrated about this...

especially with DU'ers that have been here for a while. This could lead to our having verified voting in every election. Standardize a percentage of ballots to be hand-counted..require open-source-code..and fix our elections. But as long as people demean, deride, any one who questions the accuracy of the tabulation of our votes...nothing will ever change. Why?

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K Gardner

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 PM
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10. This has nothing, zilich, zero, NADA to do with Obama. I hope not to hear you

cry voting fraud when we have a surprise that doesn't match the polls in November. If you're not for counting votes, you either don't care about Democracy or forgot about 2000 and 2004. Oh, and it has nothing to do with Clinton, either.

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alcibiades_mystery

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 PM
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8. The voting fraud thing is ridiculous

Unfortunately, there are a pack of paranoids on this board who will jump at any opportunity, and some of them, as a statistical population effect, fall into the Obama camp. I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that the Obama camp - as some entity - supports the voting fraud contention. It's merely unfortunate that some of the voting fraud nuts are also Obama supporters.

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Thrill

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Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 PM
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9. The difference in the voting machines

and hand ballot counts. Need to be addressed.

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