ALL this racial tension in the democratic party just proves the country isn't ready

bigdarryl

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:43 PM
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ALL this racial tension in the democratic party just proves the country isn't ready

for an African American president that is.

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goldcanyonaz

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:44 PM
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1. I totally disagree. We are ready for a Black President.

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Skwmom

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 PM
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31. Well maybe you need to tell the Clintons that. Of course

they already know that but that wouldn't help their campaign.

The latest in trying to use Obama's race to discourage people from supporting him:

Aides believe that, combined with a surge of support among women, Clinton's 'crying' incident, and the possible role of race in bringing white voters to the New York senator's side, they see the makings of a reconfigured strategy to carry the campaign forward.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/11/as-new-hampshire-dust-set_n_81159.html

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madeline_con

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:44 PM
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2. All what racial tension? n/t

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Anouka

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:45 PM
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4. there's no need to be naive. n/t

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madeline_con

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:53 PM
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19. I don't see racial tension.

I see some people who won't be voting for Obama, and some supporters who take that as a racist attack.

Note the key words SOME.

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elizm

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:55 PM
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23. Only racial tension I see is what Bill and Hillary are creating. nt

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ClassWarrior

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:47 PM
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10. My question exactly.

Other than in the actions of a handful of trolls, where's the racism?

NGU.

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AlCzervik

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:45 PM
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3. Don't try and project your feelings on to the whole of the democratic party.

thank you.

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bigdarryl

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:46 PM
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7. well this stuff isn't coming from the rethugs thats for sure.

Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 07:48 PM by bigdarryl

the Clinton's have got surrogates out there making statements in CODE LANGUAGE.

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AlCzervik

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:47 PM
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11. do you think du represents the whole democratic party?

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David Zephyr

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:50 PM
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15. "muslim" "drug dealer" "screaming monkeys"

Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 07:50 PM by David Zephyr

One Hillary supporter here used the term "screaming monkeys" to describe Oprah's audience.

I could go on and on.

It's right here at the DU and it makes me sick.

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Anouka

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:07 PM
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41. that is disgusting.

particularly since Oprah's audience is usually middle class to upper middle class women.

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David Zephyr

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:11 PM
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42. Yeah, it still pisses me off.

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michaz

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Fri Jan-11-08 09:06 PM
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53. Could have fooled me! Sure sounded like a Repug remark!!

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Anouka

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:50 PM
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16. And of those within the party who aren't, after all?

Their votes count... and their votes don't help their own party, if they're willing to let race be their guide instead of policy and platform.

Be it black ministers exhorting black parishioners to avoid voting for a man because he is black ...

or white democrats saying they'll vote republican if a black is on the ballot for democrats...

or latino democrats rolling their eyes and preferring a woman less because of her stances and her shot at history, but because she is white....

it's a problem, and it needs to be dealt with.

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Cooley Hurd

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:46 PM
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5. Umkay, bigdarryl....

...and that goes for your other brother, Darryl.;)

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David Zephyr

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:46 PM
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6. It's really sad to see the veiled racism among so called Democrats.

Southern white male "Democrats" who manufacture "reasons" to oppose Barack.

It makes me furious.

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Anouka

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:52 PM
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18. i agree, except the southern white male stereotype needs to stop.

this is universal -- it includes both genders and all races -- and it's frightening in the applications of its universalness.

but yes, the veiled racism within the democratic party is disappointing.

the refusal to acknowledge that it exists, from some corners, is more disappointing.

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madeline_con

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:55 PM
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24. Yep, and it's racist, too. n/t

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madeline_con

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:55 PM
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22. So if we don't support him, we're racist?

If that's what you just wrote, I say bullshit.

If not, please accept my apology.

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Occam Bandage

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:59 PM
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29. No, but if you don't support him because "America isn't ready for a black President," you are.

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madeline_con

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:01 PM
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34. I've "manufactured reasons" like the post I responded to stated. n/t

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Occam Bandage

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:27 PM
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45. While I can't say for certain, I would bet

that the "manufactured reasons" refer to those similar to the OP, not your legitimate concerns.

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David Zephyr

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:01 PM
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35. Jeez. That's not at all what I said.

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billbuckhead

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:58 PM
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28. You don't have to manufacture reasons, he's an empty suit with big rhetoric

You don't have to manufacture reasons, :tinfoilhat:bama's an empty suit with big rhetoric and a big smile who doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning in the general election but has every possibility of tearing our party apart for no good reason except so he can build a "movement", make history and a bunch of money.

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rufus dog

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:49 PM
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51. and why does he not have a snowballs chance in hell?

Polls don't back that up. Why do you think that?

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maddiejoan

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:46 PM
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8. Sure we are

I don't see your point.

It's quite obvious from polls that the USA is very ready for an African American President.

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eleny

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:46 PM
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9. Where was progress ever easily achieved?

Now stop it with the negativity.

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jackson_dem

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:48 PM
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12. If cooler heads prevailed none of this would be happening

Hopefully both sides pull themselves from the brink before it is too late.

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ruggerson

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:49 PM
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13. I think all this so called "racial tension" is fictitious

it's on Drudge and in the rightwing media and then it gets reprinted here and everyone gets riled up by it.

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Fed_Up_Grammy

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:50 PM
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14. Baloney !!!!!!!! (With all due respect,of course)

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Marrah_G

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:50 PM
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17. This racial tension is being flamed in order to divide our party

Once that happens the Pukes win. We are completely ready for an AA president or any other sort of president. We won't get it though, if we continue to allow ourselves to be manipulated.

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H2O Man

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:56 PM
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25. Thank you n/t

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Marrah_G

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:59 PM
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30. I'm just incredibly pissed off at what I see happening on DU

Those doing it are assholes and those naively following their lead ought to take a really good look at what is going on aroud them. Unfortunately I think they are too fucking blind to see it.

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Skwmom

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:02 PM
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37. It's being flamed to help Clinton win the nomination but it

will also seriously damage the Democratic Party (but since when have the Clintons gave a darn about that).

The latest from the Clinton camp

Aides believe that, combined with a surge of support among women, Clinton's 'crying' incident, and the possible role of race in bringing white voters to the New York senator's side, they see the makings of a reconfigured strategy to carry the campaign forward.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/11/as-new-hampshire-dust-set_n_81159.html

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Marrah_G

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:04 PM
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38. Keep on fanning the flames

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elizm

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:53 PM
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20. Not what I have seen at the Obama rallies at all.......

The racial tensions in the Democratic party are being created by the Dems who oppose Obama....and it is really shameful.

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geek tragedy

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:53 PM
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21. Did you think it would be easy? n/t

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Kahuna

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:57 PM
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26. Really? Is THAT the lesson you take?

:crazy:

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Occam Bandage

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Fri Jan-11-08 07:58 PM
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27. We see what we are, I guess.

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Barack_America

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 PM
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32. Congratulations. The Clinton campaign has successfully manipulated you...

...with their recent insistence on injecting race into this campaign. You've been had.

Don't be naive. They are using these *maybe racist, maybe not* statements to frighten people away from an African American President.

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bigwillq

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:00 PM
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33. I think the country is ready

for an American-American, a Latino, one of mixed race, like Obama, and even for a woman.

Of course there is going to be criticism and some very harsh things said but I think for the majority of the people in this country, we are ready.

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BenDavid

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:02 PM
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36. I don't want obama as president for the simple reason he is not

Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 08:03 PM by BenDavid

ready. We live in dangerous times and we sure as hell do not need another inexperienced man to be President. You see what inexperience brought us. So, I say HRC is the one that can lead from day one and I could care less if she is a lightning rod and the republicans hate here bout as much as some in here but still HRC will be the president of all americans......

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Skwmom

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:06 PM
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40. Yeah. Clinton did a great job voting for the wrong war. We will have spent trillions on

something that made us less safe. With a track record like that - no thanks.

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jaysunb

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:05 PM
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39. That's the message you're supposed to get.

:evilfrown:

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Bluerthanblue

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:19 PM
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43. growth and change are painful and often

pretty ugly.

We will NEVER be ready, if we wait for everything to be smooth and easy.

What is being exposed is ugly, and stupid.
But it will never be healed or addressed if we run the other way.

I'm ready- WE'RE READY.

If not now- when?????

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calteacherguy

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:21 PM
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44. The moment is Now!

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earthlover

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:35 PM
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46. The racists are not ready for an african american president....

My question for the OP is are you ready to let the racists decide whom we nominate for president? And if you are, can you claim any distinction at all between your decision and theirs?

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vee

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:37 PM
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47. I think it just proves that we are damn tired of the racist/sexist.

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NoBorders

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:40 PM
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48. I have to disagree

Just because a bunch of us hyper political/social partisans can discuss it endlessly, doens't mean that's how it's going in our broader society.

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shraby

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:45 PM
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49. Two words

MEDIA HYPE

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rufus dog

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Fri Jan-11-08 08:46 PM
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50. So let me understand

Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 08:51 PM by rufus dog

Because Racial Tension exist we should not vote for a Black President. Where have I heard similar statements?

Rosa shouldn't have created an issue, MLK shouldn't be coming down here with those Yankees and tell us what to do.

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SoxFan

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Fri Jan-11-08 09:00 PM
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52. Douchenozzle of the Day

The Hillary crowd engages in racially charged games, then uses it as a way to say "see, Obama stirs up racial games".

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AZBlue

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Fri Jan-11-08 09:18 PM
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54. Racial tension in the democratic party? Was that a joke??

WTF??

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billbuckhead

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Fri Jan-11-08 11:31 PM
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55. "Barack Hussien Obama"

Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 11:58 PM by billbuckhead

Go to YouTube and see what propaganda is out there about :tinfoilhat:bama.

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