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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:36 PM
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It's crying time again!
Did anyone else see this on CNN today?

http://susiemadrak.com/2008/01/12/17/35/crying-time-2/

See, I didn’t believe any of those people who accused Clinton of crying on purpose - but I just saw her do it again, while talking to some 65-year-old lady in Reno who was losing her home. Wiped her eyes, got the little catch in her throat…
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:37 PM
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1. Pardon me if I wait for a little more than a blog post as documentation to buy into this one.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:38 PM
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2. Maybe she will get the coveted Klenex endorsment.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:38 PM
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3. My goodness -
your need to post in this manner says much more about you then it does about Hillary.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:39 PM
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4. Here we go again.............
According to many of the female analysts I know, the crying thing works once, and she used it up and only won by 2%.....this time it will backfire.
Hillary quit and keep whatever little humility you have left.....
DISGUSTING!
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:40 PM
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7. Bless your heart - you just don't get it.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:00 PM
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16. Oh I get IT alright but I DON'T WANT IT!
I didn't drink the Clinton or nobody kool-aid.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:04 PM
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18. Bless your heart - you will never get it.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:42 PM
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26. OU blahdi Ou blahda life goes on....ON
yes life goes on, yes IF the Dems nominate Missy Hillary she will lose, and we will just pick up and start all over again...at least we will finally be rid of the Clintons

GOOD RIDDANCE!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:40 PM
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5. Hell, she was talking to a 65 year old losing her home. I wouldn't begrudge Senator
Clinton some emotion here.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:41 PM
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8. Really nt
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:40 PM
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6. I hear women do that stuff from time to time
Welcome to DU.

If you're a Freeper Troll, then ignore the last sentence.






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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:42 PM
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9. I saw that on CNN also
I teared up myself listening to that story.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:42 PM
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10. I saw this happen, and
the whole talk show format of her "event" was really strange.

She's really running with this whole, "They loved my tears!!" thing, isn't she.

Say hello to Hillary Jesse Raphael.

It felt so staged and forced...I almost felt sorry for her.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:18 PM
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31. Okay, I just wondered if anyone else had the same reaction.
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 10:18 PM by uberblonde
The first time, fine. This time, it definitely had a whiff of stagecraft to me.

Mind you, I don't care what they do to market themselves. But it had the opposite effect on me.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:35 PM
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38. It does look staged and pathetic now...
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 10:37 PM by TwoSparkles
...which I really like--because anyone can see what's happening and it will
be a losing strategy for her in the long run.

I actually believe that Hillary's initial teary moment was real. I saw it
and I believe it was not manufactured. However, I do believe that her emotion
was due to exhaustion, sadness and frustration because her campaign was tanking.

I think emotionally, she had been on a roller coaster since Iowa. Those candidates
get so little sleep and they're emotionally vulnerable.

However, this over-the-top "new and improved" Hillary-as-prom-queen shtick
is so contrived, that it's embarrassing. Hillary is Margaret Thatcheresque, and
it's just a bit bizarre to see her rollicking around the country as if she's a
cast member doing a bit from "High School Musical".

Her campaign is erroneously assuming that her emotions turned the NH vote, and they've
manufactured an entirely new personality for her--based on their belief that it will
garner votes.

It's plastic. I don't agree with Hillary's policies, but as far as her
personality goes, she is who she is. She's more introverted and analytical. There's
nothing wrong with that. By creating this drama, she's overreaching and ultimately the
public sees that it's bogus.

Someone told her to smile, like---all of the time. It's scaring me.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:42 PM
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11. Was her mortgage part of the Fortress potfolio? nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:43 PM
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12. I don't believe it is possible for some people to see this behavior in
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 08:48 PM by patrice
any other way. That's not a slam on HC, but a comment on how some people think.

You know, it IS possible that the woman has honest emotions.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:44 PM
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13. I'd cry too if I were talking to a 65 yr old woman losing her home n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:45 PM
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14. Nixon used to crack his voice to add emotion to his speeches
He was quite good at it. Hillary deserves an Oscar for her performance!

Published on Thursday, January 10, 2008 by CommonDreams.org
And the Oscar Goes to…
by Cindy Sheehan


…Hillary Clinton! For phoniest display of belated emotion in a Presidential campaign!

Hillary’s recent emotion at the tanking of her multi-million dollar; mass pandering campaign reminded me of a scene in Mike Myers’ Wayne’s World where he, as Wayne, throws water on his face and emotes about something while “Academy Awards Clip” flashes on the screen. Hillary Clinton does not do anything that is not coldly, if not icily calculated. However, seeing her ambitions and life’s work of becoming the first female president go down into the primordial-primary ooze may be something for which she might exhibit a little emotion.

She showed no emotion when I met with her along with another Gold Star Mother, Lynn Braddach from Oregon, whose son Travis Nall was also KIA in Iraq. We poured our hearts and souls out to her and she hardly even blinked, let alone shed a tear for our heartbreak that she had been a major neo-connette chearleader for.

That meeting happened in September of 2005, just a few short weeks after we left Camp Casey in Crawford, Tx on August 31, 2005. Anti-war sentiment was high and the apex was a mass march and rally that hundreds of thousands of like-minded (many for the first time) attended in the belly of the evil empire on September 24th. Since then, the motivation and energy of the anti-war movement has ebbed and flowed with each subsequent fresh assault on peace and democracy by BushCo with the help, support and justification of “Democrats” like Hillary Clinton.

After Hillary was booed at a campaign event in New Hampshire over the weekend, I am sure that there was a high-level meeting of her campaign that came up with the strategy of the new and improved and “emotional, but not too emotional” Hillary Clinton. This is the same campaign that thought Hillary could demonstrate that Senator Mike Gravel (who chastised her in a debate about her vote to sanction Iran) was crazy by laughing at him like she was the insane one with a very bizarre and disturbing cackle. This is the same campaign that told Ms. Clinton that she should under no circumstances apologize to the families of the needlessly and tragically fallen for her support of the war that killed them. This is essentially the same campaign that handed the White House over to Bush again in 2004. Kerry’s campaign was such a resounding “success,” Hillary thought she could run the same careful and calculated one and be victorious…seems to be a disconnect here.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/10/6303/
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:02 PM
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17. Yuck
I can't believe Cindy's stooping to this level. :(

With such sexist gems as "icily calculated" and "bizarre and disturbing cackle," I have to hope Cindy didn't write this one without help. This is just gross.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:17 PM
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22. Sorry to change the subject, but what beautiful cats you got!
I have four cat companions myself, plus one dog that my ex left me.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:28 PM
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24. Thanks
I kinda like 'em myself. :hi:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:12 PM
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41. And Cindy gets nuttier by the day.
:puke:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:38 AM
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44. Unlike your "girl," my woman Cindy wants the war to end ASAP
and not keep a permanent occupation force, or guard an embassy the size of Vatican City.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:17 AM
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45. I don't have a 'girl'. My boy friend wouldn't allow it.
...
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 08:46 PM
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15. Flamebait much?
:popcorn:


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Aussie leftie Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:04 PM
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19. Hillary is just utilizing her god-given human emotions
I don't really care how often she cries or gets choked up. It is good to see a politician show empathy and to see one talk from the heart. I think 7plus years of neo conservatism may have desensitized a lot of people to the things that really do count in our society.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:05 PM
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20. Oh My God - she's Human! I HATE her!
:eyes:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:07 PM
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21. It worked one time... it won't work twice, though.
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:17 PM
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23. I saw it.
The lady finished speaking and Hillary wiped her eye but there were no tears.

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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:26 PM
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35. Go watch it again.
First she wipes one of her eyes, then as she's talking, she turns her head and her mouth starts working like she's going to sob. Then she speaks with a catch in her throat.
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:39 PM
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39. I saw that, too, but no tears...
I didn't say a word about her first "incident" but this one looked fake.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:29 PM
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25. i've seen biden upset, his voice crack and tears well up. soooo...????
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:53 PM
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30. Biden's not Hillary. n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 11:07 PM
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40. Yeah I've seen him when he talked about the death of his 1st wife.
I cried with him.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:45 PM
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27. I told you all that she was going to pull this shit, over and over again, until she's called on it
nt
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:52 PM
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29. I'm SURE people are going to see this as calculated and her support from women will drop
to its "pre-sympathy" level.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 09:45 PM
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28. She hasn't cried (teared up) for 35 years on tv (she claims 35 years of experience)
and then suddenly she does it twice in one week? There have been far sadder things she should've teared up about, like her "mistaken" IWR vote for which thousands of our troops died, her husband's affairs, any PAST questions asked of her before she realized "showing emotion" was politically beneficial, etc. She's a phony. And people will realize it. Even Sherri Shepard, the lady on The View that didn't know if the world was round or flat, said she was touched by it that one time but she doesn't want to see it again.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:22 PM
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33. Yeah, that was my reaction.
Edited on Sat Jan-12-08 10:23 PM by uberblonde
The first time, I understood the stress of the situation and it seemed to be a very genuine, human moment. I've also worked on campaigns, and I'm damned sure her advisors must have told her to "let it happen" more often.

But this time just seemed bogus.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:31 PM
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36. I agree that it "seemed" genuine (I'm not 100% sure since she turned it into a political
opening to attack Obama in the process) and I totally agree that she was advised to "let it happen" more often. I think it will be seen as overreaching and insincere.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:29 AM
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42. How in the world do you attack dogs not know that the lack
of emotion is what she acts out on a daily basis? The emotion could be the true Hillary coming out. Nevertheless, I just want Hillary to be Hillary, crying or emotionless, she will always be criticized. There are always people who want to tear down a successful person. They seem to be coming out in droves. I believe America wanted to see her cry over the "Monica" thing and when she didn't, she was considered cold. She obviously learned that it was better to hold it in then be made fun of and described as weak. She just can't get it right, right? Leave her alone! (Can you hear me screaming?)
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:26 PM
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34. She found her voice...
it's called Crocodile Tears.

Seriously, it just seems wierd to me all of a sudden she's doing this.

Maybe it's legitimate, who the fuck knows. Let's move on.

It's the dirty Politics she's been trying to pull w/ voter suppression that has me more concerned.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:32 PM
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37. I agree...
but I DO care about it, because she's fooling people into feeling sorry for her and voting for her because of that sympathy.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 10:19 PM
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32. we don't need a smirking president and we don't need a crying one
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:30 AM
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43. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt...
good grief, I get choked up over commercials fer kripes sake!
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