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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:15 PM Original message |
Are references to Obama's drug use racist? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. No. Did anyone in Obama's camp claim it was? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. How is insinuating that he was a drug dealer racist? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. . |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. The OP is being disingenous as |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. i did coke in the 80's |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, implying he sold drugs is |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. All drug dealers are black? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. No one said Clinton or Bush sold drugs |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Actually I remember people wondering if Bush sold coke |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. I beg you pardon, didn't little Bush state Clinton sold drugs |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Who implied that? Not Billy Shaheen. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. If I remember correctly |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Shaheen said the republicans would use it |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:30 PM Original message |
The vast bulk of drug dealers are white. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. That's my experience |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. And yet the bulk of drug dealers in jail are black |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. The real racists are the ones who think that all drug dealers are Black.nt |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:17 PM Original message |
It was used against Bill Clinton in 92 |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think it would have been ammo regardless of whether O was black or not. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. ? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes. Any criticism of Obama is inherently racist. nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Only a HIll |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. "Don't you have some crosses to burn?" unfairly mischaracterizes Obama non-supporters, cali. |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Cali, I don't knw about you, but I'm getting so frustrated with HRC tactics in this race |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. see post #13 nt |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. interesting way to introduce a previously obscure-to nonexistent topic nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. no. and nothing ohnson said is racist |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. If you wanted to start a thread sliming Obama, why disguise it as concern for racism? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
11. Not racist; just sleezy. nt |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. Shaheen was racist by throwing in the drug dealer thing from left field |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. All drug dealers are black? |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. dfk, do you have the Shaheen quote handy to share? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Here it is. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. That's how I remembered it. Thoughtful insight by an experienced campaigner. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well that is also another tactic: Oh I wouldn't say that but HE would. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. "racist"? You think all coke users/dealers are Black and so any mention of them is racist, dkf? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Not all but it does run into a stereotype. |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. Were they "racist" comments when he wrote them in his book? |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. You clinton supporters need to quit spamming the site. I'm so damn tired of |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. This OP was in response to: |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Thanks. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Back atcha |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. Racist? No. Dirty politics beneath the Democratic party? Yes. n/t |
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vee (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. Cut to the chase "Obama's Supporters Are Crying RACISM!!!!!" |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
31. Pointless nonsense |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. Are references to Clinton's naked lesbian pagan rituals sexist? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No. Homophobic, not sexist. nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Good point. But probably sexist too. nt. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. The OP was in response to this thread: |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Don't care what thread it was in response to, it is still crap. nt. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. What's crap is your charge of who "floated" it n/t |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. Obama must be a racist since he wrote about it in his first book |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
51. well, DUers have sure gone after Dubya's drug use. seems legit to me. nt |
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