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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:47 PM
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Is this forum an example of the "unity" that Obama promises?
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM by 2rth2pwr
If he can't bring together Democrats, how does he expect us to buy his schtick about how we can do better?

There is no right, there is no left, we are one people
there are no red states , there are no blue states, this is the United States

blah,blah,blah......


oh,yeah-- yes, we can. woo hoo.





edit to change is to are.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:50 PM
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1. Nobody is allowed to criticize Obama. He has come to save us.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:00 PM
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19. praise be to God! Amen! nt
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:50 PM
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2. When the voice of the status quo is slinging all the mud she can at the wall..
then what do you really expect to happen?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:17 PM
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34. Speaking of status quo, the "candidate of change" was endorsed by BEN NELSON just yesterday
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:37 PM
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44. Proof of unity.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:50 PM
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3. Hilarious
This forum is not an example of anything.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:52 PM
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5. OMG! Obama can't even bring DU together! OMG! OMG! OMG!
:rofl: indeed.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:53 PM
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6. Ok, how about the Democratic party? Does it seem like we are all cozy, cozy
buddy, buddy, cumbaya?
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:52 PM
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4. This is an open forum ... there are Hillary-ites here
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:53 PM
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9. There is an example that I was looking for. nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:53 PM
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7. Hillary has been devisive to this forum before she even started running....
if you haven't noticed.

I think that the Hillary Chicken came before the Obama egg.

It is Hillary doing a bunch of talking about these matters, not Obama.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:55 PM
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11. The egg is all over Obama's face
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:58 PM
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14. One day, you will wake up from this stupor you insist on.....
and you will hang you head down in shame. Until then, just like Hillary and her IWR support, you will have none.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4052491
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:30 PM
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40. Anyone who calls one candidate "cream" and another "dried powder"
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:31 PM by durrrty libby
should pay attention to their own psyche and not try to diagnose others


It makes you look silly
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:53 PM
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8. When Obama supporters post "Don't you have some crosses to burn?" insults,
what does that have to say about the sincerity of their belief in what their candidate stands for?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:02 PM
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22. What do "you" have to say...
about some 'supporters' slinging shit about every single democratic representative (or anyone else for that matter) who dares to endorse a candidate, other their own? 'You' would be far more credible if your shit wasn't flung so far and so wide. But I do not think that is any reflection on 'your' candidate. It just reveals who 'you' are.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:54 PM
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10. I have nothing against Obama...
but the neocons do..
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM
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24. Your posts say otherwise...
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM
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12. Another person thinking DU is reality and DU Obama supporters are Obama himself.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:56 PM
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13. You are a little fixated on race, no?
..maybe you should space your shit-flinging a little more...too easy.

2rth2pwr
If Obama wins- are we getting 4 to 8 years

of racism charges anytime he faces criticism or opposition?

This is not a good way to lead with the politics of hope, or to unite our country.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4051803
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:00 PM
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18. Where do I reference race in this post?
think, b4 u post.

Hey, the good news is that yours is another perfect example of how any criticism of Obama is called racism.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM
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32. No...I'm just revealing who you are...
2rth2pwr
If Obama wins- are we getting 4 to 8 years

of racism charges anytime he faces criticism or opposition?


This is not a good way to lead with the politics of hope, or to unite our country.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4051803
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:13 PM
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33. Who am I? nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:23 PM
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37. -----------------
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:29 PM
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39. Exactly, So why make this about me?
Don't answer that, thanks.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:33 PM
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42. You are the one fixated and stalkerish. Get a grip on reality
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:38 PM
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45. very apt user name....
Ignore
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:49 PM
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46. Truth hurts, eh?
"very apt user name...." How so? Is that supposed to be some kind of silly insult?

Sonotcool47, just small and petty
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:58 PM
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15. Should Obama just sit back and let Hillary lie her ass off about him?
The truth hurts. And it hurts Hillary the most.

Her divisive character and some of her followers and surrogates bring out the worst in people. She attacks Obama for his kindergarden paper ferchrissakes! Who can honestly support someone with that level of tripe?

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:58 PM
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16. Here:
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:00 PM by ProSense
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:59 PM
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17. herding cats is hard when you're not the shephard
but merely one of three vying to be the shephard.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:01 PM
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20. Who's the 3rd one?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:04 PM
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28. Edwards
you know, white dude, Opie haircut, used to have a thing on his lip. I saw his face on a milk carton the other day.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:05 PM
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30. Oh, right! That guy. nt
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:02 PM
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21. That's not fair
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM by LittleClarkie
Primary time is always horrendous here.

And it's not like Obama runs DU.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM
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25. i on diff bd then. nt
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:45 AM
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47. No habla text message.
What the heck was that?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:05 PM
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29. It is not just not fair but a really odd thing to even think, I think. You know?
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:22 PM by uppityperson
What with this being DU, not OU.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM
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23. The Obama movement doesn't unite anything in the present. It unites only in the unspecified future
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:03 PM by Karmadillo
in unspecified ways that can only be detailed at the unspecified appropriate moment.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:04 PM
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26. I couldn't put it into words, you nailed it! nt
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:08 PM
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31. Well then....
Is this forum an example of the "unity" that any candidate promises?

If she/he can't bring together Democrats, how does he/she expect us to buy her/his schtick about how we can do better?

I mean, if a candidate can't even unite DU, how can we expect anything out of them?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:04 PM
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27. lol
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:18 PM
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36. lol
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:18 PM
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35. No, it's the hillary promises with her lies,
smears and jeers from her players.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:24 PM
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38. I love it when a divisive DUer then tries to say Obama is divisive
It's a brilliant strategy. :thumbsup:
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:34 AM
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48. Obama began campaign by attacking Baby Boomers
telling them to get over themselves and quit the fights of the 60's. He regularly uses RW talking points to attack fellow Dems and to dismiss issues that go to the core values of the Democratic Party, to our very souls.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2676101
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:43 AM
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49. And this Boomer wholeheartedly agrees with him. It is an observation
that we need to stop living in the past and start addressing the issues of a new century and the generation to follow us. I don't know about you, but I'm sure as hell sick of squabbling over the Vietnam war. Damn it, I want to see those struggles of the last century actualized in this new century, and I can see that there are those who have a definite interest in maintaining divisions and hatred in this nation. Nothing like nourishing corruption, is there.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:33 AM
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51. It's not Vietnam unless you consider Iraq part of the fight.
This is not about living in the past. It is about continuing to stand for what we believe in, do keep what was hard earned in the 60's and 70's from being further eroded. Did you read the other thread?

Do you think we can even get back to where we were pre-W without fights?

I prefer Edwards and have tried to remain positive about each of our candidates. A couple of weeks ago I started exploring why Obama did not resonate with me, why I found most of speeches rather boring in an "I've heard all this before" and "Where's the beef" way. As a result of my digging into this, I now have moved Obama to the very bottom of my list of Dem candidates. I am not happy about this result.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:51 AM
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52. What do you think the fights of the last two elections were based on?
Who was on the right side of the Vietnam war.

I think those groups who have been dumped on during the past few administrations (Clinton included because there were some policies that came out of those years that were detrimental) unite. I think the Clintons have purposefully and tactically introduced fights which did not have to be fought. I like both Obama and Edwards and they are my preferred ticket. A constitutional scholar and a lawyer who has fought in the trenches for consumers combined would be a formidable ticket. This nation has more than enough problems right now to focus on and the Boomers are starting to die out. Our generation has much to make right before it shuffles off this mortal coil. Repairing the damage done to the constitution and to restoring some balance between business and workers in this nation and developing healthy international relations are critical. Time is slipping away.. As far as the Clintons are concerned, I don't care to spend the next four or eight years with reporters frankly running around trying to trip Bill up (and you know they'll do it) or the RW trying to rehash every scandal they can dig up to reopen old wounds. It is not constructive.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:30 PM
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41. Nope. It's an example of the nastiness that eight years of Clinton will bring.
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:31 PM by Occam Bandage
'course I don't believe that either...but see how it can be turned around? It's a bogus argument.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:35 PM
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43. ...
:rofl:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:45 AM
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50. bwahahaha.
Now Obama is responsible for your being divisive and nasty? Too funny.

:rofl:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:58 AM
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53. Speaking of unity, there's a thread in GDP proposing that Obama run as an independent.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 06:58 AM by Perry Logan
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:10 AM
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54. A pox on both your houses..
... HRC and Obama are peas in a pod. Neither is going to do jack shit to piss of their corporate masters.

It cracks me up that one team can claim some kind of advantage over the other. Both candidates SUCK.
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