Was Matthews wrong? Hillary minus Bill equals what?

I'm not a big Chris Matthews fan, but I don't understand all the fuss over his recent comments about Hillary. We bemoan the fact that the media is too complacent and does not report enough on substance, and Chris Matthews comes and out says it like it is, and everybody has their panties in a knot. OK, maybe he could have said it more nicely, but what on earth is inaccurate in substance?

We don't know what Hillary would have accomplished on her own without Bill, but we do know that everything she has accomplished since marrying Bill has been tied in one way or another to Bill. So I think it's a very fair comment that if you take Bill out of the equation you have one very ordinary corporate lawyer.

Hillary hitched her wagon to Bill, not vice versa. That's just a matter of fact.

In my view, that's just calling it like it is. Mind you, I'm not saying that "disqualifies" her from running as President. I just think she should be running on who she is today and quit already with the 35 years of experience and fighting for change nonsense.

"I don't understand all the fuss over his recent comments about Hillary."

Since when being clueless is a virtue, needing to be rewarded with a thread?

The community here might wrest control from the "important" posters. I predict you will never see that here.

and everybody has their panties in a knot????

Get real!!! He goes with the flow and what is the talk of the day (and then acts as if he thought that way forever!)

MKJ

wuld also argue that he would be right where he is today without the support of his wife and family.

Even if Hillary is where she is because of Bill, so what? She is where she is. Get used to it Tweety.

Mz Pip
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for president. This is offensive. You do not need to like her to understand that.

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the 35 years fighting for change beginning with the Children's defense fund is not nonsense - at least it should not be nonsense if you are a Democrat.

--a big joke.

And where would the whole Kennedy clan be without Joseph Kennedy's drive , wealth, and connections...

Nepotism is as old as apple pie...

I would say nepotism isn't enough... How did the progeny of FDR make out? I think the highest postion any of his progeny earned was mayor of Miami Beach...

"...in one way or another."

We're married. We support each other in our accomplishments, comfort each other in our failures. Imagine that?

Don't you have any better material? What a pos post. And I'm not even a Hillary supporter.

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....then there would be no women running. Why not? Are there not qualifed women? Hillary is as qualified, if not more qualified than the other candidates. If she needed "a man" to get here...then it's not her fault, it's the fault of a society that still holds women back.

But, in fairness, you also have to ask "Bill minus Hillary equals what?".

She's played a role in his success as well.

" Ann(a) (ni)Coulter (Smith)

Ann Coulter is the Anna Nicole Smith of politics. ANS gained fame and fortune with her two big boobs, AC by being a big boob."
http://girlieman.blogspot.com/

Someone seems to have a problem with women (real or not). Don't expect him to understand the partnership of marriage.

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..."Behind every successful man is a strong woman". Or something to that effect.

Point being, Bill Clinton would not have made it as far as he did without the support and encouragement of his wife, either.

But no one will ever try and minimize his accomplishments because of that.

Of course we don't know where Hillary would be today if she had never married Bill. But the converse is also true: we don't know where Bill would be today if he had never married Hillary.

Now you may want to totally discount the 8 years in the White House as her being nothing but a politician's wife. I do not see it the same way. What I do see, is a woman who put her own ambitions on hold so her husband could make the most of his. No doubt, the fact that he is a supremely gifted politician factored into that decision.

But she also won a Senate seat on her own merits, and scared off Rudy Giuliani in the process (for which we should all be thankful).

Finally -- as others have already pointed out -- Matthews' statement that she would not be anywhere if Bill had not fooled around on her, is deeply offensive. She is an accomplished woman -- people may have valid reasons to dismiss her "35 years of experience" line, but going on to suggest she would be NOTHING without Bill is just unadulterated CRAP.

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