Republicans are Americans, too

I do not understand the hate that a flier by an Obama campaign manager has generated. Some of us act as if Republicans were monsters. They are Americans too, you know?

To those who haven't heard, Obama's campaign manager in Nevada distributed a flier asking Republicans and Independents to block Hillary from becoming president in '08 by voting for Obama.

Guess what? It's politics.
And it's America, too. A nation made up of Democrats, Republicans, independents, etc., etc.

Let's stop the bickering, to use one of Obama's favorite words.
We need unity, not more division.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election
"In other words, primary elections are one means by which a political party nominates candidates for the following general election."

is select the person most attractive to the most people in the country. Democrats sometimes
dare I say often miss this point. That is why we have had so little success electing presidents
in the last half-century. Even Clinton only won a plurality the first time and owes his presidency
to Perot

We have the opportunity in this election to choose a candidate with wider appeal than Democrats.
A lot of you around here are amazing blind to that fact. And if your candidate wins, I fear
we will all be poorer for it.

Of the sort GOP-ers usually do - like in 2004 in the south - when they voted en masse for Edwards

Republicans do not consider Democrats Americans. Many Republicans consider Democrats traitors.


So fuck 'em.

fuck 'em!

and once that happens, the only hope of reasonable people is to outnumber them and push them off to the side until they reconsider and decide to rejoin the country.

So fuck 'em.

at heart.

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Because everyone can vote.

They sure don't believe in the same Constitution I do.

And Republican voters are morans.

That is the nicest I can be to them.

republicans are people too. We get too caught up and we love to bash a huge group of people who do not have a voice here (thank god) that alot of people forget or are too brainwashed by the right bashing that we forget their are alot of educated well meaning people that just have a different political ideology, these people can be talked with and reasoned with. they are not all religious zealots or blind faithfull patriots. These are human beings that we share the same family/city/country/world with. I do not understand the need to bash them as a group. I do understand the need to bash them on a case by case buisness but this bashing as a group hurts america as a whole and I can only hope that democrats become more open minded just like i wish upon the republicans, if we dont this partisan bickering will just contineau ad nauseum.

help "block Hillary from becoming President in '08" doesn't sound like what a Democrat should be doing. So is the Obama campaign advocating for Democrats to vote republican in November? Because if Clinton gets the nomination, that's what they would have to do to keep "Hillary from becoming President in '08", right?

This is one of the reasons I will have trouble supporting Obama if he gets the nomination - he seems to not realize who the Republicans are.

Saying "Republicans are Americans, too" is a statement that completely disregards the last, not only 8 years, but the last 27! The Khmer Rouge were Cambodians, too. The Nazis were Germans, too. The Fascists were Italians, too. I don't really see what difference those statements make. And don't pretend to be shocked at these analogies - they are analogies and as such are quite legitimate...

No, f*** them for being idiots and the monsters who lead them in "God's" name.

I don't think it's time to play all nice with them just yet. Give it some time, I may have sympathy for them in, say, 50-100 years :P

Moderate Republicans and masses of independents are signaling, they do not want to
play the Right Wing Republicans game any more. At the same time most of them hate
the Clintons. We would be very smart to offer a candidate for whom they can happily
vote. Or we can nominate the candidate that they hate and watch our opportunity
for victory evaporate. That is our choice.

:P

denigrating the poster works so well.

And the Republicans have systematically killed our notions of justice, democracy and human rights.

Particularly one which proves that Obama's campaign manager distributed this flier?

I read the Salon article which talked about a precinct captain named Bob Buchanan who made this stupid flyer without input (though arguably a 'plausible denial' by refusing to look at it) from the Obama campaign.

link: http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/01/14/flier/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room

But maybe you have access to an article where he was promoted to campaign manager?

Not a campaign manager.

And that's why including links is a good idea, and incorrectly suggesting that this flier was created by someone of much higher ranking in the Obama campaign is not so good.

It ain't the Republicans who are in charge of this country at the moment.

Since when is the party establishment always right?? Sometimes it's fun to vote in the other party's primary. The more participants and voters the better. Too many people are not involved the way it is.. It is unconscionable for any democratic candidate's campaign to promote locking people out of the process.

Fuck them.
I,for one,would rather see them in prison.
And if Obama feels he needs pukes to win then screw him also.

and help us throw this corrupt, radical, crime syndicate out of office??

Why is this confusing?

I'm all for trying to bring people to our views, and the general election is an excellent time to do that.

But an Obama win will be thanks to Republicans. This is only a modest improvement over their first choice.

And gathering votes that include some Republicans and many independents would increase our chances.

Given the choice between a Democratic nominee that Democrats like and a Democratic nominee that Republicans like, I'd pick the former.

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