Why in God's name is Hillary going On Tyra and discussing

Bill's affair with Monica Lewinsky? Hillary supporters would have anyone's head for doing such a thing and yet Hillary does it herself? I guess it can be argued it is her right to do so but it seems undignified and petty to me. And Tyra of all people! I just read the comments following a promo on this and wow, it really seems like this is a mistake. I thought the Campaign would "move on by this".But maybe they think it "works" somehow. It doesn't make me comfortable. I think this opens the door to mockery.

...share makeup tips too. I know Hillary wants to appear more "human," but daytime bimbo television isn't the way to do it IMO. I mean, Tyra's guest the other day was that dimbo beauty contestant explaining about her "maps" speech.

Or...erm...so I've heard. Don't watch it myself. No. Not me. Uh uh.

Which may be an oxymoron, now that I think about it.

In any case, I'm sure the viewing of daytime brainrot probably crosses gender boundaries. Remember, the term "bimbo" originally referred solely to men.

as in "it's perfectly fine to discuss Bill's indiscretion on 'Tyra Banks' Show', so why can't it be discussed during nationally-televised live debates with GOP'ers?"

the wounded wife role. She'll do anything...............

.....just maybe if she would have give WJC some deep lip WJC wouldn't have strayed far from the ranch....

It to bad she wont go on the networks and discuss the lies of the bush/CHENEY administration...after all last night she seem to be running against GWB and not Obama or Edwards....I wish she were more consistant.

I am moving closer every day towards the the ABH camp.

I can not believe the way this campaign is being run. I've always thought of both Hillary and Bill as highly intelligent and politically savvy. But someone has lost their touch, or is mis-reading the American public, or perhaps is speaking to a different audience.

The number of housewives, mothers and unemployed stuck in the house watching this talk show tv schlock. These are the same people that forgive serial killers on Oprah, they will lap it up. Very shrewd move on her part.

Guaranteed she'll take masses of votes with this.

Daytime tv works

Tyra has a (I believe) predominantly African-American, young audience, so talking with her helps Hillary reach those viewers who may not necessarily pay much attention to the nightly news. Secondly, with regards to her discussing Bill's infidelity with Monica, it's quite possible that there are those in Tyra's audience or who may tune in who have gone through a similar struggle and may, in part because of that, identify with what she went through. Takes Hillary out of the caricature people have constructed around her and closer to someone they may share a "yeah, that sounds familiar to me" reaction.

I just don't like any of our candidates exposing themselves to this indignity but she probably does view it as "preemptive".I guess it isn't that much different than Obama tackling the drug issue up front. I suppose they "know" the issue of Monica is going to come up. I hope no one gets the idea to drag Monica or anyone else out! Sheesh.

everything AND the kitchen sink will be dragged out, dusted off and foisted onto the Public.

With Hillary, though, the vast majority of this information is kind of already known and I suspect most people will shrug their shoulders and say to the repugs "yeah, big deal. we know. is that all you got?" and then move on.

Gossip, innuendo and scandal are only exciting to the American People when it's new and the person is someone you don't know a lot about. And it's even better if the allegedly scandalous person looks totally innocent and oh-so-nice.

:evilgrin:

In 2004, it turns out we knew all of Kerry's REAL baggage from the beginning. He had no real scandals. His service was exemplary and even Nixon's people, on not intended for the public, admitted that. Although his 1971 Senate testimony was courageous and praiseworthy, it was his only real baggage and had to be defended. Even in the biased world of 2004, the truth was all that was ever needed to defend him. By November, the lies were tamped down. The votes he lost were lost to people who wanted Bush's policies to continue and who were in some cases offended that Kerry criticized how Bush conducted the war.

2008 will be easier. The country has turned and there is no sitting President.

The rest of us don't get to make jokes about handicapped people, but a handicapped person can. Same with African Americans, Jews, or any other relatively oppressed demographic.

Hillary is managing her own personal affirmative action. As a society, we try to help oppressed groups overcome their hurdles by skewing the "table" in their favor in some ways for a while. HRC certainly has a big hurdle to overcome- or at least a glass ceiling to break through- and if she can find a way to break down or circumvent the irrational resistance to her candidacy, then more power to her.

It's just embarrassing, that's all. I don't want to know, frankly, any more about their private lives. I just wish we could let this go, and here it comes all over again...

affair was brought up on DU today and you'd think the OP had asked for hillary's head. But, I see it's okay that hillary goes on tv and grovels for the sympathy vote.

When's she going to address the Soldiers and their families and tell them she's sorry?

...But let's be honest. With the anniversary of the whole lewinsky thing right around the corner, It is only a matter of time before this hits the media whether Hillary addresses it first or not. Since she is his wife and this happened to HER and not to US, then I think she is within her right to talk about her experience with whomever she chooses and in whatever format. I, personally don't think I would have chosen Tyra, but...I guess we'll have to watch and see how it goes.

kris

that someone mentions down thread-I have to say Tyra is the least serious of many of the day time drivel. (and that ain't saying much!) It must have marketed well with Hils focus group du week per Mark Penn. I've seen Hillary on the View, but not recently.

I watch this show called the Soup which is actually my favorite thing on Teevee. (Fridays at 10 on E! with Joe McHale) They love to mock and mock and mock some more Tyra. She's become a big joke. Can't wait to see if this is on Friday.

If not, why not?

:puke:

or is your faux outrage reserved for anything Clinton?

She is so much what fellow professional women would term a shameless character who rose up through the ranks based on her spouse's position. Although she is Bill's first and only wife, she resides in the dark recesses of morality with those "trophy brides." :thumbsdown:

"Making the rounds" on location seems to be OK.

:shrug:

Hillary got blasted a lot on DU for being Imperial and aloof. She got blasted a lot during this entire presidential race for being "unlikable". It's hard to like someone when hardly anyone really knows them. Her husband got impeached over that shit and Hillary lived in a media spotlight 24/7 throughout it. She has been damned by some for not leaving her husband over it, and she is the only person I know in high level politics who pundits feel free to question the love she feels for her spouse.

She didn't make this a public issue. The Republicans and the media made this a public issue.

It's a topic anyway, so discussing it frankly is smart politics. One can rarely accuse Clinton of not practicing smart politics.

She is trying to get to black voters.

It is very different for her to discuss this herself on her own terms than it is for either Clinton supporters or opponents to bring up and discuss it. It is her own life she is talking about here. The truth is that event is woven into Hillary's public life story now and it can't be buried without walling off part of who she is from the public. That type of "walling off" was part of how she psychologically survived being under a constant public microscope for well over a year while her husband was impeached over events connected to his sexual affair.

That type of "walling off" is also what contributed to the entire "Hillary is unlikable" meme. She kept up her guard and she kept her dignity but not without paying a large price. It played into her being viewed as a cold ice queen at the same time as the media had a frenzy speculating to this very day that her remaining married to Bill Clinton can't possibly be about real love and holding to her wedding vows, but instead must be a calculated political ploy meant to enhance her chances to achieve political power.

Hillary is already mocked about her femininity; she is already mocked over being a "ball buster". I believe that a Hillary Clinton nut cracker was once advertised for sale at either DU or Kos. She is right to face that affair now in a setting of her choice because otherwise it will always remain an underground issue used against her if she becomes our nominee. So it makes sense to me that she chose this show to discuss that ordeal.

To me Hillary's ability to carry on in public as first lady under the strain of her husband being impeached and the whole world talking about his unfaithfulness to her clearly demonstrated to me that she has the internal fortitude needed to be President of the United States; the ability to stay focused on the job in front of her no matter what the personal stresses she might face. To me it is part of her personal "credentials". It is highly relevant.

I started a thread on DU a few weeks back asking why Hillary Clinton had such significant African American support and more than one Black member referenced the human aspect of her struggle to hold her marriage together, of her facing the concept of "forgiveness" in her personal life, as being something that resonated with many Blacks in particular.

But whether she would rather all talk of Monica went away or not, it won't. It simply won't. Now is the 10 year anniversary. Hillary can let others dissect her response to all of that for her or she can address it herself. The latter seems wisest to me.

Discussing the "Lewinsky Affair" helps her do this in a whole bunch of ways. She can play "victim" at the same time as she is seen as "fighting back," just to name two. She also knows that if she is nominated, the scandal is going to be highlighted time and again by the Repiglicans. If she addresses it first, and addresses it WELL, it looks a LOT better. She can also pre-emptively denigrate the Repiglican Attack Machine at the same time.

Daytime TV, Tyra Banks, housewives, infidelity, scandal...this is the most sympathetic audience shae is ever going to get for this...

If she fails to properly address this "issue," failing to frame it in her favour, or comes off as too "weak," she will pay dearly later on, however.

If she appears disingenuous or condescending, it could backfire pretty badly. I really hope she can control the faux "down home" accent and the tendency to appear too much like "one of the little people." People can smell THAT shit from a mile away.

I believe that she will come out of it with a few more votes in the primary and a better chance to get elected if nominated, however, for the reasons I posted above.

:banghead:


Look...I may not like the woman, but eventually she may well be the nominee.

The sheer snark coming from the campaign recently may help her in the primary...but not in the GE.

The Hill-o-copter

Hil-force-one

The "Pick my theme song" youtube reality show thing

The sopranos commercial

The whole BFF tour

Now she's on Tyra Banks of all people? Next she'll be doing Maury, Dr Phil and who knows who else?

Talking about having a reality show to pick the title of the first gentleman?

Wanting to be on Dancing with the stars?

And help us, ANOTHER hankie moment?



IHMO, the whole Monica thing was a mistake for her to bring up...it's like the drug use comments, Bills history about "I didn't inhale" was untouchable until they started mashing what Obama admitted into peoples faces.

By opening the door HERSELF, it now makes that subject able to be placed on the table instead of floating around forums and blogs.

Senator...PLEASE STOP, I'm not supporting you in the Primaries...but we can NOT afford another Republican in the whitehouse.

I still didn't like her when she was considered "Cold and Calculating" ...but at least then I knew that if she became President, she would have the steel to get the job done.

I think it was great of Hill to go on her show.

She should get credit for being willing to talk what is an obviously painful subject for her. But she gets little or no credit for taking a stand for real family values, sticking with her husband, and raising a beautiful daughter, keeping her family together, and facing what many ordinary women face in their marriages all the time.

Of course, we all know that it's always the woman's fault when a husband strays. :sarcasm:

husband strays"
If you didn't know it before, there are plenty of posters on DU who will gladly point it out for you.

Was she asked a question? Was it a reasonable one or sensationalist one?

:wtf: