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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:16 AM
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Reagan's AIDS Legacy Silence equals death
As America remembers the life of Ronald Reagan, it must never forget his shameful abdication of leadership in the fight against AIDS. History may ultimately judge his presidency by the thousands who have and will die of AIDS.

Following discovery of the first cases in 1981, it soon became clear a national health crisis was developing. But President Reagan's response was "halting and ineffective," according to his biographer Lou Cannon. Those infected initially with this mysterious disease -- all gay men -- found themselves targeted with an unprecedented level of mean-spirited hostility.

A significant source of Reagan's support came from the newly identified religious right and the Moral Majority, a political-action group founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell. AIDS became the tool, and gay men the target, for the politics of fear, hate and discrimination. Falwell said "AIDS is the wrath of God upon homosexuals." Reagan's communications director Pat Buchanan argued that AIDS is "nature's revenge on gay men."

With each passing month, death and suffering increased at a frightening rate. Scientists, researchers and health care professionals at every level expressed the need for funding. The response of the Reagan administration was indifference.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/06/08/EDG777163F1.DTL
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:16 AM
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1. Very True.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:21 AM
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2. Obama certainly has a tin ear for gay issues
I'm really starting to not like :tinfoilhat:bama, I've only been against him until now because he's unelectable in the general election but BO is turning into a real ass.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:42 AM
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15. what does reagan's lack of an aids policy have to do with Obama...
What does Obama automatically share all of reagan's policies because he said something nice about him??? Do you even think about what you are writing?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:46 AM
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16. Lets throw Donnine MCclurkin in the mix
And we have a MO!
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:26 AM
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26. Exactly....not sure why some are so blind to the obvious truth.
... or maybe they aren't.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:23 AM
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3. FRONTLINE...
has an excellent 2-hour program on the AIDS pandemic, which can be watched in segments at their site.

They include a thorough look at Reagan's stance, as well as other failures, successes, and challenges:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/aids/view/

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:24 AM
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4. Thanks for the link.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:25 AM
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5. Clinton helped to cover for
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 AM
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6. NOTHING in your link is about HIV/AIDS. What is your point re: Bill Clinton?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:28 AM
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7. Ain't that the truth!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:31 AM
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9. Point: Bill Clinton covered for Reagan! n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:32 AM
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10. Point: Another Obama spammer!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:29 AM
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8. Why don't you link about Clinton Setting up a AIDS task force in the West |Wing of the White House?
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:30 AM by William769
Why don't you tell about the money Clinton allcated for AIDS.

YOU REALLY FUCKED YOURSELF IN THIS THREAD BABY.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:36 AM
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12. Because she only cares about electing Obama, not people with AIDS
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:36 AM by Bluebear
It's disgraceful.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:36 AM
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11. The movie AND THE BAND PLAYED ON is right in everything
it depicts. The dates, and all that transpired. Even the AABB meeting in Washington about screening for aids....And Reagan sat silent as the band played on......
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:37 AM
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13. RR had blood on his hands....
Karma came around and look what happened to him. A bit of justice, maybe. But it will never make up for all those we lost.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:40 AM
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14. A little bit of information for the stupid
Tha AIDS quilt is so large that it cannot be displayed at one time.

I wonder How many lives would have been saved if this crisis was attacked like it should have been under Reagan?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:54 AM
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17. You're right, I think Clinton should apologize
"Hillary and I will always remember President Ronald Reagan for the way he personified the indomitable optimism of the American people, and for keeping America at the forefront of the fight for freedom for people everywhere."
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:55 AM
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18. See Post #8 unless you want to try to rewrite history.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:56 AM
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19. What history? That reagan was an asshole? I agree
"Hillary and I will always remember President Ronald Reagan for the way he personified the indomitable optimism of the American people, and for keeping America at the forefront of the fight for freedom for people everywhere."

Too bad the Clinton's don't.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:59 AM
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20. What is this thread about?
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 01:00 AM by William769
And yes the Clintons picked up the ball that was never touched by Reagan.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:01 AM
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21. Bashing Reagan, which no one here has a favorable opinion of.
Reagan is being brought up because people are trying to claim Obama was praising his legacy and everything he stood for.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:04 AM
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22. As for me after MCclurkin mess
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 01:05 AM by William769
Now this. Seems to have formed a MO. As a Gay man living with AIDS, I am going to pay special attention to his MO.

ON EDIT: fool me once it's your fault, fool me twice, it's my fault.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:05 AM
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23. Whatever.
I won't waste any more of my time on anybody who spreads this bullshit.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:06 AM
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24. ANd what is Bullshit about the OP?
Just keep digging that hole. You Just might find Obama's legacy in it, REAGAN!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:17 PM
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29. You indicate you are living with AIDS. Respondent answers: "Whatever"
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 03:18 PM by Bluebear
GDP in a nutshell
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:20 PM
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30. Thats what I expected from that poster, no big surprise.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:25 AM
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25. ...
:kick:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:34 AM
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27. It was FAR MORE than indifference
If anyone can get a copy of Surgeon General Koop's autobiography, read it.

You will be appalled.

Pat Buchanan and Phyllis Schlafly were the two people who had Reagan's ear on HIV policy. They wanted gay people dead, and convinced Reagan to do NOTHING for five years to combat the epidemic.

Koop was stymied at every turn.

He tells the story of going on the Today show in 1985 or so, four years into it, and the White House called NBC ahead of time and said a precondition to Koop appearing was that he NOT BE ASKED ANYTHING ABOUT AIDS.

This is what Ronald Reagan and his religious rightwing cohorts did. They killed tens of thousands of innocent Americans with their fucked up hate.

Schlafly and Buchanan and Bauer and others in the Reagan administration should be dragged up in front of a tribunal and forced to undergo a lengthy public trial. And they should rot in jail for the rest of their days.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:25 AM
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28. K&R!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:23 PM
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31. Where was your outrage against the Clintons praising Reagan for years?
I lived through that holocaust and buried loved ones and friends.

Both Bill and Hillary haved heaped praise on Ronald Reagan for years.

Does that bother you at all that they did?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:38 PM
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32. Bill and Hillary had a AIDS task force set up in the West wing of the White House.
See the difference?
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