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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:16 PM
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Huckabee Directly Equates Homosexuality with Beastiality
At some point you'd think Mike Huckabee's views would be seen as so controversial that there's no way he could possibly be a contender for the nomination of one of America's two main political parties.

Especially now. In an interview with Beliefnet.com, a religion Web site, Huck has just clarified his view that the Constitution should be amended to be brought in line with God's will -- and he directly equated homosexuality with bestiality.

Huck, in elaborating on his views that the Constitution should be subjected to Biblical standards, had just wrapped up a discussion of the fact that marriage has meant "a man and a woman in a relationship for life." With this context firmly established, this exchange followed:

Is it your goal to bring the Constitution into strict conformity with the Bible? Some people would consider that a kind of dangerous undertaking, particularly given the variety of biblical interpretations.

Well, I don’t think that’s a radical view to say we’re going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what’s been historic.


That's pretty clear cut. Changing the definition of marriage so it can mean "two men" or "two women" is equivalent to changing it to mean "a man and an animal." No ambiguity here whatsoever.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/huckabee_equates_homosexuality_with_bestiality.php

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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:17 PM
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1. Radical cleric Mike Huckabee spouts off again...
:puke:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:17 PM
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2. I Posted That A Few Weeks Ago
He's a piece of work...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:18 PM
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3. Shades of Rick Man-on-Dog Santorum. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:20 PM
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4. To be fair, he threw threesomes--no, FOURSOMES, and child abuse in there as well!
He seems awfully interested in all these possibilities, doesn't he?

Wonder what he did to those poor squirrels before he fried them in the popcorn popper? The BASTARD!!!!!!!

He's just one of those jerks who's worried about what EVERYONE is doing with their fiddly bits...sure, he hates gays, too, but that's certainly not a surprise to anyone...!
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Afje Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:23 PM
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5. The Huckster is about to get raptured out of the campaign

He's just hanging in there long enough to expose the lunatic fringe for what it is.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:25 PM
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6. doesn't sound all that different from Obama...
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:28 PM
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8. When has Obama said something derogatory about gays?
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:28 PM by Katzenkavalier
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:29 PM
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10. Umm..forget about Donnie already..we haven't
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:42 PM
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15. When has OBAMA HIMSELF said something derogatory about gays?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:33 PM
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13. Well thats a smear.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:41 PM
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14. yeah..if only those gays would just shut up and go away..right?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:31 PM
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20. Sounds like something Huckabee would say.
:rofl:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:26 PM
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7. Huckabee-Santorum!
:rofl:

The sad thing is this comment and his one about "God's law" earlier this week will actually help him in the South Carolina primary. He is unlikely to be the nominee but if he is his religious fanaticism will make him a token presence in the fall election.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:28 PM
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9. DIAF, Huck
:grr:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:29 PM
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11. There SHOULD be no place whatsoever in American politics for this kind of bigotry.
These disgusting bigots who spew this kind of hatred SHOULD be relegated to the furthest reaches of the lunatic fringe. It still boggles the mind to realize that this nasty homophobe has a chance of winning the Republican Presidential nomination. Shameful.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:33 PM
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12. Not only that, he equates it with pedophilia: "a man and a child"
I would equate hateful religious zealots like him with bacteria that feasts on scum...however, scum eating bacteria at least is something that is useful.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:56 PM
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16. Well, he's definitely sewn up the fudie nut-case vote......
he's their man, no doubt about it now. They've found yet another genetic throwback to the bronze age to carry their christian soldier banner high. :puke: How can people BE so stupid? :shrug:
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08amanation Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:59 PM
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17. Suckabee is the most beatable repug eom
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:01 PM
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18. Huckleberry Hound
Does that mean that the Huckster wants to do to gays what his son does to dogs?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:30 PM
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19. He doesn't directly equate them. Listing

things together in a sentence doesn't mean you think they're the same. To directly equate them, he'd have to say "Same sex marriage is the same as bestiality," which he didn't say.

Suppose he'd been talking about proposals to legalize marijuana and had said "I think the radical view is to change the definition of legal intoxicants so that it can mean marijuana, cocaine, heroin, crystal meth." He would not have been equating marijuana to the other drugs, just saying that IF we legalize marijuana, THEN there will be people who argue for the legalization of cocaine, heroin, crystal meth. And that is certainly true.

It's the slippery slope argument. He said "once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again." IF same sex marriages became legal, THEN it's very likely there would soon be efforts to legalize bigamy, polygamy and polygyny. I think that's undeniable. The Warren Jeffs polygamy case has been going on for years and if I recall correctly he married at least one minor in addition to having multiple wives. There are surely a good many polygamists, and even more bigamists, who just haven't been caught and would like to legally wed all their spouses.

I don't doubt that there would also be efforts to legalize marriage between adults and minors or between humans and animals. There are some people who would want that for themselves. That's what Huckabee is saying, once you change the definition of marriage, people will want to continue changing it.

Certainly he views all relationships outside a marriage between a man and a woman as immoral, but I would think he views some as more immoral than others. Look at the sequence in the sentence and you'll see bestiality is last. I think that's a clue, Watson.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 01:42 PM
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21. You're a routine Huck defender. I think you're on the wrong board.
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 01:43 PM by wienerdoggie
edit to add: this disgusting asshole does not deserve defense.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:40 PM
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24. You're mistaken. Take a course in logic. nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:46 PM
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26. No, you are. Your'e trying to defend him, when he clearly lumped gay marriage in
with marrying an animal. He's a bigoted bastard, and you look really bad here trying to parse his words to salvage some sort of positive/non-offensive spin out of what he said. Why waste your energies trying to "clarify" and polish what he said into a less-Santorum-like statement?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:30 PM
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22. It's called conflation.
And it's a right-wing religious trick that the neocons borrowed to convince 75% of the American people that Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

Falwell perfected this little trick throughout the '80's.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:39 PM
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23. But if Dems accuse him of saying something he didn't say, we lose by

looking like liars. It is better to talk about what he has actually said rather than make inferences.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:46 PM
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27. But that's the whole point of conflating statements.
To the listener/supporter, they believe that Huck did in fact say gay marriage will lead to bestiality.

Not once did the administration say the Saddam was responsible for 9/11 in the build-up to war. But by simply mentioning in one sentence "Saddam" and in the next sentence "9/11" they were able to convince most of this country that one was responsible for the other.

Falwell used to mention homosexuality and alcoholism and pedophilia when he wrote and spoke. Never said they were linked, but his followers eventually thought all three were linked.

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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:41 PM
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25. Is that better or worse than equating homosexuality with a disease that ought to be cured?
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 02:41 PM by Stop Cornyn
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