What are the candidates views on Prostitution?

In Nevada, prostitution is legal and many contend that ultimately victimizes, objectifies, and degrades women.

It seems like this would be a topic of interest if one were to ask the candidates.

So, does anyone know what the candidates' view on prostitution are and why none of them have spoken out against it?

It's quite homophobic to say that.

I think we're so far from that discussion, unfortunately, they probably won't touch it.

But I'd be interested to hear, too, if any of them have.

I don't go to Vegas.

It needs to remain a crime for anyone to buy a human being as a sex slave. The victims of pimps and mobsters should not be arrested and rounded up like they are, THAT is what should be decriminalized.

You will never hear it brought up because it gets at the reality of how women are still treated by men in this supposedly liberated society. I'm voting for Hillary. Things need to change.

They're not sex slaves. They're not slaves at all. Why should the government be able to to tell a man or a woman that they can't charge someone to have sex with them? If they can do that then she also be able to make abortion illegal. In a liberated society, government would not attempt to legislate what consenting adults can do with their bodies.

The people who make the money are pimps, pornographers and crime organizations, not the women being used. Women in brothels are 'charged' for their 'room and board', exorbitant amounts that they can never get above, like indentured servants. They can't leave, it's near impossible. If they cause trouble, their 'contract' can be sold to another pimp/brothel and they can be moved. Their world is filled with violence, rape and murder. Women and girls disappear everyday who are never seen again...often when they're young, runaways. In Nev., their movements are regulated by law, when and where they can go. They are treated like 2nd class citizens.

You can call it what you like....sex, business, but you are purposely ignoring the women's reality. It may feel like 'sex' for the men who use and abuse them, but I guarantee you it isn't that for them.

Be honest.

I actually used to hang out with a few of the poor downtrodden women that worked in them and they used to pick me up in their limos to go out and blow wads of cash on us. whether or not you want to hear it every single one of them loved sex.

And the idea that their movements are regulated by law is complete and utter bullshit. don't buy into the feminist bullshit you are being fed the legal brothels here in Nevada are full of woman making huge sums of cash and enjoying every minute of it.

Like I said I used to hang out with several of these so called slaves of yours and they were anything but they made more money in a month than I make in 6. I live in Las vegas I used to drive a cab here and I spent a lot of time in and around the sex trade here.

You on the other hand are repeating some bullshit you read somewhere.

and it isn't just what I've read. I've been very involved and an activist alongside women fortunate enough to escape.

try watching the cathouse blues sometime on HBO. Then come back and tell me how those women are slaves.

thats what happens when it is leagal. Its when it is illeagle that the problems you describe come about.

Women who 'work' there aren't allowed to leave the brothel for more than four hours a day.

They aren't allowed to own cars.

the women who work their sign a contract for how long they remain on premises.

The barb wire isnt to keep them in but to alow screening of people coming in. I swear some of you guys just make shit up as you go along.

The 'contracts' are for the pimps and brothels benefit to claim virtual ownership of the women, saying they can't leave until they've 'settled' their contract, ie; what they OWE. They are 'charged' for 'room and board' in exorbitant amounts which makes it near impossible to leave, not to mention suffering as many men as they can in trying to do so or meet their quota. They can be 'sold' to another brothel or pimp, and moved around, even over state lines, so it becomes difficult for friends or loved ones, if they have any, to find them.

The contracts are to ensure that the women dont work one day and take the money and run and its big money they make. The girls I used to hang out with cleared 15k every two weeks. They are not forced to sign those contracts nor are they forced to work there they are charged a penalty however if they chose to leave early. You are completely oblivious to what goes on here in Nevada. Equating nevadas brothels to those of say taiwan or something as you are clearly trying to do here is totaly dishonest.

they are required to stay on site. They can leave at any time they wish but they do have to pay a penalty on the contract they signed if they do so. They are not forced into it, they walk in of their own volition and they do so with everything spelled out clearly for them in advance.

And again the wire is not there to keep them in, it is for their security.

Equating Nevada's brothels to those in third world countries is totally dishonest.

You may not like it but theres a whole lot of women out there that actually enjoy sex.

done any contract work lately?

and they arent held prisoner they can leave whenever they want they just have to pay a penalty for breaking their contract same with any other contract in america.

If you want to stop the abuse you speak of leagalize it and regulate it cause the girls here in Nevada are taken good care of and make a shitload of cash for what they do.

Why not go ask them yourself instead of continuing to spout your ignorance over and over.

http://www.sherisranch.net/forum/

You don't express any care about how women suffer, what they endure.

I get it now ohhh those poor women who were forced to go agree to a contract to make huge piles of cash poor them.

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to prevent someone else making money from the use of their body? what makes selling one's body for sex any different to selling it for ditch digging?

It's the pimps, pornographers and crime organizations. AND the state! How nice. The women are kept like indentured servants.

Oh, and if you dig a ditch, nobody is going to make you lay down in it so the crew can sexually abuse you.

But interesting that you'd equate us, women, with dirt.

you havent a clue when it comes to Nevadas brothels.

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Notice the contract part. If you dont want to do it dont sign up. If you do sign up and dont like it dont renew your contract after 14 days. Slavery my ass

prostitution has been legal there most of the 20th century. Given the economic growth of the state, any effort was unsuccessful.

It doesn't matter when they legalized it....women in the 60's and 70's simply began to speak up about it

We need one of those about as much as Kucinich needs a gift certificate to the Big and Tall store.

PS There's nothing feminist in voting for a woman whose main qualification for the job is her marriage certificate. Women benefit from hiring on merit (see current college admission data for a good example) and should no more be preferred based on their gender than men, because either approach is completely sexist.

PPS Assuming all sex workers are slaves and victims is paternalistic crap, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for tearing your sisters down like that.

Why don't you get on a bus, go to Vegas with no money and no cell phone no car and walk into the nearest brothel to sign up?

Prostitution is a state issue. They're running for federal office. So are you one of those who thinks that the government should control womens bodies?

if the candidates have been questioned on it.

I have enough trouble taking care of my goldfish, let alone control the bodies of 52% of the population. My aspirations are much more modest, so give me a break.

Come to think of it, I haven't heard any of the candidates being questioned about what they intend to do about illegal wire-tapping, torture, habeus corpus, the illegal occupation of Iraq or a load of other similar issues. But hey, yours is way out front of that silly stuff.

I wish they would be questioned hard about those questions.

I mean, why should we matter?

ask em yourself

http://www.sherisranch.net/forum/

Ask a woman who was fortunate to get out.

the state has the right to pass these laws (or not pass them), attacking Nevada for it wouldn't do anyone any good.

Follow the money.

Ya know, that sounds like an excellent issue to hide all those other issues that make our brains itch.

idiot

I'm sure he's enjoying his time there :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl:

:sarcasm: Good grief.

I'll be looking for a job, after Florida.

he may be able to sympathize with the ladies of the night. :shrug: I'm just sayin'.

Women suffer. They're not having a party, they are entrapped like indentured servants. They are used and forgotten as if they've simply disappeared and nobody noticed (which is often the case, but often too there is a family missing their daughter. The police don't care about finding her).

effects on the political and social standing of sex workers than legalization.

In particular, many people rely on sex workers to earn a living, I know many transsexuals have a hard time finding a job (me included) and although I would never go into sex work, who is going to help those women who have no income and are relying on sex works to make money and survive? Are you going to help them?

there should only be a law against those who 'buy' and pimp.....almost exclusively men.

I agree there needs to be more help for people who are homeless and/or without jobs, but help does exist and that is beside the point. It's just a fantasy for people to feel comfortable and believe women are independently 'making a living', like Jamie Lee Curtis in 'Trading Places'. IT'S NOT A JOB, it's women and kids being used and sold like slaves, indentured servitude, trapped in a world of violence and drugs that's very hard to escape. The POLICE treat them like the criminal and arrest/harass them, not so often the 'john' or pimp. The police 'monitor' it and don't care, because the POLICE and justice system is still very much dominated by men.

I don't believe you have friends who are prostitutes, day in day out, living in hotels or brothels where they have little contact with others but each other.

If you have friends who have on their own have sometimes tried to do this on their own because they were desperate for money, they should be very careful they are not infringing or stepping into some pimps 'territory', because they could be hurt.

And why wouldn't you want to go into 'sex work'?

You know why.

Have a care.

i personally don't find it the most admirable job, but keeping it criminalized keeps conditions worse for the women and lets them continue to be abused without consequence...

The state restricts their movement, where they can go, and legally recognizes the "contracts" that permit pimps to keep them like indentured servants. They're treated like 2nd class citizens, worse. They don't have the same rights as others. It's encoded in the LAW.

What does letting them be "abused without consequence" mean? That doesn't even make sense.

Do you realize that you are putting them down with your words that it is not the most "admirable job"? It isn't a job. They are victims of pimps and crime syndicates. They will not be helped or as long as it's legal, and as long as they are treated like the criminals instead of the pimps and johns who use and abuse them.

This affects all women and how we are treated in the world.

its completely false

They make butloads of cash and you dont know shit aboput what you are talking about when it comes to the brothels here.

when it comes to nevadas brothels. I have hung out with girls that worked in the brothels here I have talked to them about thier contracts i have helped them spend the gobs of cash they made.

You on the other hand have read about some bullshit or talked to prostitutes who did not work here leagaly, and you are transfering those experiences to the legal brothels.


Oh and the barbv wire is gone now days why dont you take a look and see for yourself instead of sapouting your nonsense repeatedly.

http://www.nvlb.com/home.htm

You dont know shit about the Nevada brothels admit it and we can be done with this circle jerk.

I have several friends who are full time escorts. Not working in brothels but I did date a transsexual who I loved very much and am still close friends with for 7 year now. I made a documentary on her and her life. She makes all her money via escorting, it is not something she just tried a couple of times because she is hard on cash. Guess what, she enjoys it. She lives a happy and full life, she is as safe as can be (given that it is illegal here and she has to work around that... would be safer if there were regulations). She makes a SHIT LOAD of cash. When she first started out and was 18 and 19 she had a pimp who she lived with. Another transexual who got her business and then took a cut of the money. She was perfectly happy with that scenario to start her off. The pimp did not reem her or ask for unreasonable demands. In fact... they are still close friends to this day, though she no longer works for her or lives with her.

While it is true that there are people out there in the prostitution business that are unhappy, and it is true that there are some unregulated places that are just horrendous... it is also true that many enjoy it, are happy with it, and would not change it. While I myself would never want to live that lifestyle... some do. I know this, because I am a professional night club entertainer and know some of these people personally.