If Hillary had mentioned Reagan like Obama did she would

have been savaged here on DU. That is what is funny about this whole business. You know it is true. Some probable comments would have been - "Oh Hillary talked about Reagan and how he changed the country, shows her true colors" "Hillary is Reagan-lite" etc

But since Obama said it, well, it was AOK and perfectly appropriate. Give me a freakin break!!

A lot of Obama supporters will go to any lengths it seems to accept whatever Obama says or does, and I haven't seen not one word of criticism from an Obama supporter regarding this.


Stop making excuses every time Obama says something that upsets DEMOCRATS.

And by the way, many people said they weren't Hillary supporters and they took offense too. So trying to play "its only the Hillary supporters card" isn't correct.

Same mind-set.

Sometimes amusing, in a bitter sort of way, but never productive.

Like torture, cults are never okay... even the really cool ones.

I can't believe how much Obama supporters will make excuses for him.

Why can't they just say Obama screwed up?

So there goes your theory.

The video that William769 posted has received 150+ comments, mostly anti-Obama.

...But in the MSM and eyes of many independents and left-leaning Republicans, he has gotten praise.

It was a risky strategy, we'll see if it works. Don't fool yourself that this was a slip of the tongue on his part.

It's perfect for reaching out to those groups you mentioned. That's where his appeal lies.

Those asshats already have their own party.

racist, sexist and homophobic? Or do some of them care about civil rights, but like low taxes, handguns, and religion.

What's the difference? Actions speak louder than words.

EOM.

That's a pleasant change.

I guess it is better than nothing.

I'm not seeing it that way. If she had said, wouldn't her supporters be defending her too?

and publicly demonstrated that she knew the reasons why, I would almost consider voting for her.

The details he proposes look no better than Hillarys or Edwards, arguably theirs are more progressive.

Democrats have been priding themselves on their superior wonkishness for years, and where has it gotten them? Loss after loss, and, when we've won, we play defense because nobody outside the party committee really know what we stand for. Along comes Obama, a human get-out-the-vote machine who inspires our natural constituencies and motivates new people to join our side (yes, as Reagan did) and all you Clintonistas can do is hold your nose, chant the equivalent of Dingell-Norwood, and extol the virtues of Hillary's mastery of the fine print.

Welcome to Loserville. Population: all those who continue to be willfully ignorant of Obama.

This is all a fairy tale, lol.

Democrats always outscore Republicans on health care, education, and, nowadays, even the economy. And yet they routinely lose presidential elections (7 of the last 10). Nominating Hillary, an uninspiring, divisive figure who gets high marks for understanding policy details fits the mold of past defeats. She might get by this year, but her inability to win people over will forever limit her ability to govern. After four years of unrelenting Clinton bashing, the country will go elsewhere.

The funny part for the sneering Clintonista crowd is the only way out for her would be to put Obama on the ticket. Hopefully, it doesn't come to that.

More than Clinton did. If Obama wants to change the trajectory like Reagan he needs a little more like trajectory changing proposals similar to Reagans but for progressive issues of course, otherwise he is aiming to do no better than Clinton. Clinton accomplished the vast majority of his campaign promises.

The fact is that Reagan was influential. That the mere mention of his name can send this place into such a shit-storm is testimony to that.

I didn't criticize Obama's remarks, because I didn't see anything to criticize. If he had said that he agreed with Reagan's POLICIES, on the other hand, I would have spoken out against that.

You are one of the fairer minded Obama supporters. But believe me, many would have torn Hillary to shreds if she had mentioned Reagan like Obama did.

to the point of saying that I may not vote for Obama in the primary. I was undecided but leaning Obama prior to his comment about Reagan.

BUT I will vote Democratic in the general!!

What did you find about those comments that you could criticize?

-Do you deny that Reagan was influential?
-Or do you feel that Reagan must be erased from the history books and that mentioning his name alone is unsavory?
-Or did you read some actual praise for Reagan's policies in the remarks?

Also, I'm hoping that you didn't read the "quote" that discussed the "red states". That quote was fabricated by the Edwards campaign and they have retracted it with an apology.

Oh yeah, never mind. :eyes:

:)

Lookin' kind of chummy with the son there too.

Was he campaigning for President at the time?

:shrug:

I would freaking jump for joy. That's the difference between the two candidates and if DU would pull their collective head out of their ass they would see that's exactly what Obama just said.

He is rejecting the Reaganism and Clinton centrism that has drug us off on the wrong path for the last 30 years.

Again... WAKE UP.

Try comparing and contrasting while rereading his book!

just as ridiculous as the abuse Obama has received for this.

I'm amazed (and insulted) that some people are acting as if any outrage over the comments is affected.

but he has zero understanding of the gay community

this reagan thing was another slap on the face

Reagan: killers of thousands of gay men.

not the disease.

thats just my personal belief.

i hate him with passion.

I really wish Obama hadn't picked him as an example.

Even that fuckhead nincompoop O'Donnell on Countdown last night that he meant it like "the FDR of the right"... well why not just frickin use FDR?

:banghead:

It makes no difference who says it he ios absolutely correct once again. Its the dimwits and partisans that are all in a huff about this.

Just like they piled on him about his talking to foriegn leaders in the debates for a couple days till they and their candidate had time to think about it then amazingly everyone agreed with him.

Same shit same lame ass false outrage.

Bonoir specifically said 'who believes Reagan represented hope and optimism'??

Everything else aside - is that campaign insane? Who criticizes Reagan when you're headed to the south to get the Reagan Democrat vote??

:crazy:

she says she has a good relationship with him. Her husband Bill is almost a member of the Bush family. Would you please quit the outrage?

and that shows that it was AOK with DU as a whole?