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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:10 PM
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McClurkin shared the stage with Former President, Bill Clinton...


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Amongst those invited to this prestigious affair was Zomba gospel recording artist, Donnie McClurkin. McClurkin shared the stage with Former President, Bill Clinton; The Honorable Mayor Shirley Franklin; Dr. Maya Angelou; actress Angela Bassett; Jane Fonda; comedian, Chris Tucker; Premier Michael Misick (Turks & Caicos) and a host of others. The entertainment for the star-studded event ranged from singing, dancing, comedy and the spoken word.

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McClurkin sang for Clintons at '92 Convention

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:12 PM
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1. OMG!!!!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:25 PM
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28. DUzy alert!
:spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 PM
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32. I haven't been able to stop laughing
Ever since I saw that post. Thank goodness I wasn't drinking anything when I saw it!

Duzy for sure.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:29 PM
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35. Uhhhmmm. He was GAY then, not "EX GAY"
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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50. But he was still a hypocrite.
I've never heard any of McCloset's records, but if it's typical gospel music, then no doubt he was singing all about the right wing doctrine and then going home to his boyfriend.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:28 PM
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93. He was "Ex-gay" in
May 2007:




OMG!

:rofl:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:38 AM
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110. OMG! They were BOTH invited to Andy Young's birthday bash!!
That's AWFUL!!!!!1!11!!!!!
At least Donnie was still gay back in '92.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:37 PM
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111. Kick! n/t
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:14 PM
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2. K & fuckin' R!
:rofl:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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54. TOO FUNNY! PROSENSE, misfires again!
:rofl:

spam it, baby, spam it!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM
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3. Priceless.
Absolutely priceless!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM
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4. Uh oh...hold on...
:popcorn:

Ok, go!!!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM
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5. SO FUCKING WHAT!
:spank:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:01 PM
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148. Kick! n/t
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM
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6. Well, gosh...that changes EVERYTHING
NOT.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:15 PM
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7. Was he cured yet?
Jesus still hasn't cured my electric bill so maybe hes got a backlog or something.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:16 PM
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8. Before he was "ex-gay"
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:34 PM by dbackjon
Before he became a terrorist, working to destroy our GLBT community.

ARE YOU SO FUCKING DENSE that you can not see this?


I have a sneaking suspicion that you support the ex-gay movement, and the elimination of gays from our country. Because you are sure posting like it.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM
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14. A suspision?
HUGH! :P
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:20 PM
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18. May 2007
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM
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22. oooh - he and Clinton got invited to the same event
BFD - not even close.

Try again when you get some sense....
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:25 PM
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29. They were just in the same room:
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:33 PM
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44. AGAIN - BFD
Did Clinton invite him? Did Clinton praise him?

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:35 PM
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47. Did Clinton invite him? BFD! n/t
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM
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24. It seems that may be the case.
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:23 PM by Bonobo
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:16 PM
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9. 15 years ago?? was McClurkin 'cured' by then?? or did that happen later?
:hide:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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52. 1st link is 2007, 2nd link is 1992 - not that I know what to make of this n/t
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:16 PM
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10. I told you people the "politics of association" will come back to bite you in the ass in the end...
...especially now that we have Google on our side.

Now can we drop this issue like the bullshit that it is/has always been?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:50 PM
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75. Regarding McCuckold, your phrase still shouldn't be taken literally?
:yoiks:

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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM
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11. Wait... is Bill Clinton running in this election now?
Jeez, I don't pay attention to the news for a few days and look what happens...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 PM
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31. He's always been running in this campaign. nt
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM
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12. More mud in the water from you.
At least you didn't cite a rabid RW Fox News commentator as your source this time.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:17 PM
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13. Clinton did it too!!! Clinton did it too!!!! Clinton did it too!!!
I'm tempted to type up the "Obamanaut Ex-Gay Talking Points" so y'all can just copy and paste.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:18 PM
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15. The Hell you say! Bwhahaha! And with all those other nasty people,
The Honorable Mayor Shirley Franklin; Dr. Maya Angelou; actress Angela Bassett; Jane Fonda; comedian, Chris Tucker; Premier Michael Misick (Turks & Caicos) and a host of others.:eyes:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:31 PM
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39. He was a gay man then. He wasn't Anti-Gay until 2000. Come on. Read up.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 PM
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56. 1st link is 2007, 2nd link is 1992 - not that I know what to make of this n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 PM
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65. Ya know what? Obama fucked up. Clintons 'used to' like him.

This is an issue that should be over, but no one can let it go. On DU anyway.

So explain BET's Johnson to me, and tell me he was right.

We're worrying about the wrong things we cannot change.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 PM
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16. McClurkin was probably still gay then, you know like he is now? Except back then
he probably wasn't in denial.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:19 PM
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17. SO FUCKING WHAT?
I mean Bill Clinton is he running?

:shrug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:20 PM
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19. "Ex Gay Clown" hadn't been "cured" yet -- next try
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 PM
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57. 1st link is 2007, 2nd link is 1992 - not that I know what to make of this n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:38 PM
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61. IT WAS @ ANDREW YOUNG'S BIRTHDAY PARTY...THEY DIDN'T PLAN IT.
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:39 PM by xultar
THEY DIDN'T INVITE HIS ASS.

They were invited to the bash.

HE WASN'T SINGING FOR THE CLINTONS.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 PM
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64. I was mentioning the date but FEEL FREE TO SCREAM TO MAKE A POINT
I haven't followed this whole issue in much detail and said I had no idea what to make of it - I was just pointing out that the way the original posting was written was confusing as to when this happened.

BUT FEEL FREE TO SAY THERE IS ALL KINDS OF STUFF WRONG WITH ME FOR TRYING TO CLARIFY SOMETHING AND TAKE IT OUT ON ME
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:43 PM
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69. But why would they take an Andrew Young Birthday bash not planned by them
They didn't invite McClurkin
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:49 PM
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72. I apologise.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:21 PM
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20. McClurkin wasn't an "ex-gay"
until 2000 as revealed in his book "Eternal Victim/Eternal Victor"
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:45 AM
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153. And the rally pictured above was in 2007.
Sorry.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:21 PM
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21. and another Obama fake smear boomerangs and bites him in the ass..
you guys are humerous at least...
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM
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23. Keep on digging!
:eyes:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:11 AM
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118. .
k.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:22 PM
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25. But...but...but...
Isn't this only bad if Obama did it? :sarcasm:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:30 PM
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36. He didn't turn anti-gay until 2000. Not a great find. It just showed the Clinton's supporting GLBT.
Facts. Get some.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:23 PM
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26. Before he was an "ex-gay,"
if I'm not mistaken.

If you want to attempt to slander Clinton by showing that he was on stage with a gay performer--go right ahead. You merely emphasize the homophobic streak in Obama's campaign.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:24 PM
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27. This whole Hillbot v. Obama worshiper thing is funny. Y'all need choreography and satin jackets.
:popcorn:
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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51. LMAO!
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peoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:27 PM
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30. haha! great find!
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:29 PM
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34. He didn't turn anti-gay until 2000. Not a great find. It just showed the Clinton's supporting GLBT.
Facts. Get some.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:31 PM
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38. Lousy "find". He was still "gay" in 92, not Obamalicious "ex-gay"
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:34 PM
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46. May 2007:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 PM
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55. They didn't invite him. They can't control who was invited to Andrew Young's birthday bash.
Come the FUCK ON.

Was Obama invited?? :evilgrin:
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:07 PM
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85. Dont be a hypocrite like Donnie is.
How many "out" gay gospel singers do you know?

Donnie might have not called himself an ex-gay, but there's little doubt he was singing and preaching a right wing homophobic doctrine on stage, and then going home to his "secret gay lifestyle"
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:48 PM
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95. LOL yeah I'm a big hypocrite.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:48 PM
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99. yep - great find for Hillary supporters to prove how CLUELESS the obamafucktards really are...
simply clueless...
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:28 PM
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33. Yall are killing me!
:rofl:

Lets just invoke Kevin Bacon and see what else we can find.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:30 PM
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37. Before he was a cured "ex-gay". Tell your boiler room to get their facts correct.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:32 PM
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40. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:38 PM
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60. 1st link is 2007, 2nd link is 1992 - not that I know what to make of this n/t
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:32 PM
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41. It won't matter; the outrage is about bashing Obama.
Not about being honest.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:34 PM
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45. FUCKING HONEST. He wasn't an EX-GAY ANTI-GAY MUTHAFUCKA YET! READ!!!
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:35 PM by xultar
Google is your friend. But in this case I helped you out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4135129

Don't fuck with the GLBT community in this way. It makes you look ignorant.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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49. you're asking them to think objectivly here..Come on now...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 PM
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63. They think the clintons planned Andrew Young's birthday party and invited McClurkin
Are they fucking nutz!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:38 PM
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59. "His EX GAY RANTS WERE IN 2000-2004 RIGHT IN THE HEIGHT WHEN HIS BOOK WAS PUBLISHED"
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:39 PM
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62. So, why don't you ask Obama to condemn anti-gay supporters?
I'm sure he'll do the right thing.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:49 PM
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100. and JUSTIFIABLY bashing him and his fucking clueless supporters...
nice try - I'm saving the OP to so Hillary's supporters can shove this one in your faces...

BACKFIRE!...
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:33 PM
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42. Admit the whole premise of your thread is wrong, he was GAY, not EX-GAY
Admit it, you were wrong!
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:33 PM
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43. Seriously...
Whenever people slam Obama on something like Reagan or McClurkin... it turns out Clinton did the same thing!

And I still can't stop laughing thinking about the first post! :rofl: :spray:
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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48. Try to keep up, he wasn't an "ex-gay" homophobe at the time
He was just gay, makes all the difference.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 PM
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53. He also didn't lead an organization that actively tries to reprogram people.
What a pathetic attempt at damage control this is.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 PM
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66. No. He was just an in-the-closet homophobe, like Larry Craig. n/t
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:45 PM
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71. The point is he wasn't public about it
So how could Clinton have known? There was no way for Clinton to know McClurkin would, in the future, become an outspoken homophobe. Obama in contrast, was warned about McClurkin well in advance of the fund-raiser.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:50 PM
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73. Who said he wasn't an outspoken homophobe? Just because he didn't come out yet, just like
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:50 PM by jenmito
Ted Haggard before coming out (after getting caught), he still spoke out against homosexuality. :shrug:
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VarnettaTuckpocket Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:51 PM
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76. Link please
Assumptions aren't good enough.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:58 PM
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81. Sorry. Don't have one. It's just common sense. n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:59 PM
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82. LINK RIGHT HERE... LINK RIGHT HERE... He went anti gay in 2000 when his book was published
I can't believe this needs to be proven to you. If you're an Obama supporter you should know all this to defend your candidates actions...

http://bloggernista.com/2007/10/26/ex-gay-donnie-mcclurkin-is-not-so-ex-gay/


Views on homosexuality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnie_McClurkin
Although he lived for several years as a gay man, McClurkin states that he is now ex-gay.<6> In his book Eternal Victim, Eternal Victor McClurkin wrote that homosexuality is a spiritual issue and thus one can be delivered from it by God;

"The abnormal use of my sexuality continued until I came to realize that I was broken and that homosexuality was not God's intention... for my masculinity."<7>

He then describes himself as going through a process by which he became "a saved and sanctified man". McClurkin has stated that homosexuality is a curse.<4>

His book was published in 2000 right around the time he says he was cured.
http://www.amazon.com/Eternal-Victim-Victor-Donnie-McClurkin/dp/1562291629

Product Details

* Hardcover: 190 pages
* Publisher: Pneuma Life Publishing (June 20, 2001)
* Language: English
* ISBN-10: 1562291629
* ISBN-13: 978-1562291624
* Product Dimensions: 9.3 x 6.3 x 0.8 inches
* Shipping Weight: 13.9 ounces
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:52 PM
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77. not in 1992. He considered himself agay man in 1992. He wasn't anti-gay until 2000.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:43 PM
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70. May 2007
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:52 PM
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #48
86. No, he was just a closeted gay homophobe.
A hypocrite either way, isn't he?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 PM
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58. When he was invited by the Clinton's he wasn't an ANTI-GAY bigot yet. READ UP!
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #58
87. Of course he was an anti-gay bigot.
How many openly gay gospel singers are there?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #43
96. I can't stop laughing that the last time I saw you here you were lecturing about Brokeback Mountain
Do you just frequent DU when there is some gay issue brewing that you can chime in on?
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:14 AM
Response to Reply #96
106. Hmm
I don't remember talking about Brokeback Mountain here.

BTW... I really liked the movie and have it on dvd. :thumbsup: But I don't see how your comment is a necessary response to my reply, though.

The people in the Gungeon would say the same about me as well... they may be right though...


Attitudes like this make me not want to post as often as I would like to. I've been a member of DU for nearly 3 years and yet have to reach 1000 posts.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #106
127. What's wrong? Not enough anti-gay causes to chime in your support?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:41 PM
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67. Just face it Hill-bots, the Clintons have either associated with or praised every unsavory...
...human being on this planet. Or so it would seem.

This is just delicious.

Don't these people even do a cursory google search before condemning Obama's affiliations?

Thanks for the highly entertaining post.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #67
139. It's not about "running into" these people. It's about explicitly using them to send a message.
If Obama happened to walk onto a stage where McClurkin was singing in 2007 for someone else's function that would be one thing. He CHOSE THIS MAN TO REPRESENT HIS CAMPAIGN AT A FUNDRAISING CONCERT. HE GAVE HIM A MICROPHONE. Don't you see the difference? He chose another man (Caldwell) who runs an Ex-Gay ministry to speak (one of TWO speakers) at another "Obama Faith" rally.

Would you stop insinuating that pissed off gay and lesbian voters are all "Hillbots"? It's fucking disgusting and bigoted in itself.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:42 PM
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68. 6,387 days and still no aplogy from the Clintons!
:mad: We're still waiting! :mad:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #68
74. You know right it wasn't a Clinton event. You did read the post before you replied correct?
IT was Andrew Young's birthday bash in 2007 and in 92 Donnie wasn't a homophobe yet.

Please say you actually read before you replied.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #74
79. I'm sorry for my outrage but I am crushed by the insensitivity
and the Clintons don't care if I never dance again! But I will! Just to show them!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #79
142. Yeah, fuck gay people and their ridiculous concerns. They're all just racist assholes.
Or Hillbots. Or what? Faggots?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #68
128. An apology for what exactly?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:53 PM
Response to Original message
80. You think you're so clever.
post a picture that leads people to believe that was Bill's inauguration, and it happens to be a picture of an event Bill Clinton was invited to.

You are very clever, yes clever, but dangerous, I will never believe a word you write.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. Two articles linked to in the OP: one about a May 2007 event and the other a 1992 event
You don't have to be clever to figure that out.

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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #83
84. You are sad, you are insensitive for your own political goals, and you have
the umitigated gall to judge the clintons?

You are sad.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #84
88. So here's the Hillbot logic
Closeted gay gospel singer Donnie McCloset, who sings and preaches against gays, sings at a Clinton event: GOOD

"ex-gay" gospel singer Donnie McCloset, who sings and preaches against gays, sings at an Obama event: BAD

Now as a "neutral" Kucinich supporter, I'm asking an honest question:

WHAT'S THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE??
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #88
91. you can say what you want, you are incapable of comprehension.
so I do not feel the need to explain the obvious to you.

Get lost, please.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #91
115. Thanks for the condescending response, Hillbot.
Now, can you answer the question?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #115
134. The difference: Obama gave the anti-gay bigot a free platform to spew anti gay shit.
Clinton didn't.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #88
92. Big FUCKING DIFFERENCE!
In 92" McCloset was just a gay gospel singer. In 2007 in the picture you see Bill was just invited to a birthday and on stage was the ex-gay hating gospel singer. Now Obama invited the ex-gay hating gospel singer. Now there is your FUCKING DIFFERENCE!!:grr: :grr: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #88
113. Thanks.
And the Clintons have praised the Pope and Billy Graham who have spread homophobia in ways that make McClurkin (who is a tortured and confused man) look microscopic.

Thanks for your truly impartial post. I appreciate it.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #84
89. "umitigated gall to judge the clintons"?
Yes, I do!
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #89
90. Everything you say about them you epitomize yourself. Good evening!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:41 PM
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94. They lie.
I just told the truth.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:52 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:54 PM
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103. "eat crow, shit head..."
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:41 PM
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97. Kick! n/t
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:45 PM
Response to Original message
98. HA HA HA!!! not even close...you people are CLUELESS!!!
we see your answer and your tactics now - still trying to DEFEND THE INDEFINSIBLE!

not even fucking CLOSE...

clueless...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. Here
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:50 AM
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104. This thread is so hilarious.....
It's fascinating the way Hillbots are splitting hairs in order to continue their phony outrage toward Obama. HELLOOOO!! He was the same person in '92 as that he is today. Period. Anti-gay/gay...Whatever... Such nonsense.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:53 AM
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105. If I am not mistaken it has been the G/L community
not the Clintons who have been speaking out about Obama's evnet with McClurkin. So what's your point?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #105
108. The OP is just trying to deflect facts about his hero.
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:09 AM by terrya
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:10 AM
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109. Here:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #109
141. The McClurkin meld is fascinating, Captain. Thanks, Spock. Bones, what do you think? He's dead Jim.
No matter how far you go, there you are.

LoL

I knew this was going to happen.

What goes around, comes around.

And McClurkin went around and around and around for a long time!

LoL
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #108
117. Who's hero?
The tit for tat stuff doesn't help the party. One of the two will be the party's nominee.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 AM
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107. Kick! n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:54 PM
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112. K&R.
.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:09 PM
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114. Andrew Young endorses Hillary
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:20 PM
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116. But it's only bad if OBAMA does it!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!
How dare you criticize the Clintons! You must be using RW talking points!

:sarcasm:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #116
125. The Clintons didn't do what Obama did. Had they, you'd have a point.
Just cramming all the names into a sentence doesn't mean they did the same things.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:00 AM
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119. Kick n/t
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #119
126. Pathetic OP
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 10:19 AM by ClericJohnPreston
which takes perspective to understand, which you don't possess.

Can't you see how absurd this post is?

You can't, which is all the more distressing. Increduously, you even kick an embarrassing thread.

UNREAL!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #126
131. I smell
hypocrisy. Great, huh?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:11 AM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:14 AM
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122. Your
pathetic desperation is showing!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:13 AM
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121. Way to go in your continued hero worship of a bigot. Thanks!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #121
123. Maybe you'd prefer
this hero?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #123
124. Sorry - I'm just a gay guy. I'm not fit to understand anything without being told how
to see things by bigotry rationalizers.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:20 AM
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129. Who is telling you what to believe? n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #129
130. How am I to know? We gays can't tell a damn thing without you explaining it to us.
Right?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #130
132. Believe whatever you want to believe! It's your life, right? n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #132
133. Please help me. The LGBT community is just to dumb to understand our own isues - we need you
to explain it for us!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #133
135. Read the OP! n/t
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #135
138. Thanks. But since your OP is fallacious, I have to wait for your permission to
care about my own rights.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #138
146. Kick! n/t
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 03:01 PM
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136. How dumb do Obamites think we are?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:43 PM
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137. Kick! n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:50 PM
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140. Did he preach against homosexuality at the convention?
That's all I need to know. No? Well, so what then.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 05:54 PM
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143. Not that I know of, but
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #143
144. You do remember who is running for President, don't you?
It's Hillary, not Bill.

As for the Defense of Marriage Act, Hillary has defended her support of it. The country was very close to making marriage between a man and a woman only, a constitutional amendment. The passing of DOMA was a strategy to get the supporters of a constitutional amendment to back down and support a law which could more easily be changed in the future. DOMA also leaves the recognition of gay marriage as a matter of the states. It was the best that could be done at the time. It shows that Clinton's ability to strategize to prevent a worst case scenario from becoming reality.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #144
145. "As for the Defense of Marriage Act, Hillary has defended her support of it. "
Thanks for making that point.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:46 AM
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154. Touche!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:12 PM
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147. Kick! n/t
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:04 PM
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149. HOLY SHIT, THIS THREAD IS A TROLL AND SHOULD BE LOCKED.
MY GOD
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:42 AM
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152. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:27 AM
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150. Kick! n/t
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:39 AM
Response to Original message
151. Another Obamanation (or should I say O-bama-ortion) of a post
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 10:02 AM by FredScuttle
I will ask the Obama supporters/apologists for bigotry yet again:

Why won't you defend your candidate hiring an "ex-gay" clown bigot to headline his campaign event and then refusing to apologize for his homophobic filth spewed to a receptive crowd of bigots and morons, instead of throwing out these ridiculous "But other people did it too!!" posts?

You can't, or won't, answer because the sad reality is that Saint Obama is just as big a phony, just as craven a panderer, just as quick to throw groups of Democrats under the bus just for the sake of some primary votes in key states.

Obama '08: Pandering to Bigots....By Any Means Necessary
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:52 PM
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155. Kick! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 01:36 PM
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156. Kick! n/t
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