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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:42 PM
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The Iraq War run-up: where were you in '03? Stories wanted!!!
Each February, I run a blog that commemorates the fateful day (2/5/03) when Colin Powell lied us into war... and the media called his bullshit "lemonade":

http://www.dayofshame.com/

This year, the focus will be on other people's recollections of the run-up to the war.

Do you have old e-mails or blog posts that preserved your thoughts at the time? Or do you recall any anecdotes about how you and yours were trusting or skeptical of the war drums of 2002 and 2003?

Please post yours here or via a link to your blog, or send me a private message, and a selection of them will appear on the Day of Shame site (and possibly cross-posted elsewhere).

With Super-Duper Tuesday falling on that fateful anniversary, the 5th Anniversary Fibtacular could go unheeded. So, please help us remember the day that should live in infamy.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 04:51 PM
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1. I haven't saved emails,
but the DU archives don't search '03. If they did, you could find plenty of my posts on the subject.

For the record, I was not only skeptical, I was adamantly opposed. I was writing letters, marching, and protesting about the time the IWR was being passed, up until and after troops were deployed.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:01 PM
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2. I was to. Little ole me watched GWB slowly sway the American People
into believing that Sadam ha WMD, the speech in January was the "crescendo"..... It blew my mind that I knew about the attempts to go back into Iraq by Cheny & Rumdum in 92/3 and again in the late 90's. It blew my mind that JOURNALISTS(?) didn't. It was all out there. And the press allowed that administration to dupe the American People into the war. What I find inexcusable though are the Democratic Politicians that supported Bush and the IWR, they all knew AT LEAST what I knew, but were all complicit in what they did with getting us into this war.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:19 PM
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4. I consider the following two explanations...
for voting for the AUMF to be acceptable:

http://vastleft.blogspot.com/2006/03/ok-dems-who-authorized-iraqi-war.html

1. Saddam was stonewalling the mandated weapons inspectors, so we gave the president a big stick that would enable the inspectors to do their job. "No one could have anticipated" (it's our turn to work that magic phrase, no?) that President Bush would start a war after the force we authorized completely succeeded in opening up an unprecedented level of inspections access.

2. We were pussies — but with good reason. We were totally outnumbered in every part of the government, and we'd have been run out of town on a rail by a right-wing biased news media and — let's all be honest here — by you, our constituents. I talked with a lot of you then, as I weighed my decision, and I went with what you wanted instead of what you needed. It was our job to protect you and this great country. I'm sorry we let you down — we should have stood up to the Republicans, the media, and even to you, dear voters, because it was wrong to trust Bush with this power. It was wrong to let obviously trumped-up war "evidence" slide, because it has cost the country dearly. We apologize profoundly, and will rededicate ourselves to governing in accordance with our better angels, which is what you voted us in to do before we got lost in the fog of war.


Naturally, I would have preferred that Dems in Congress had looked into Bush's soul (or lack thereof), the way he claims to have done with Putin's, and could have seen that he would start bombing even if and when inspections worked. I knew it, you knew it, but I can understand that Congresspeople hadn't fully come to appreciate the sick cynicism of today's Republican Party. What kills me (and others, literally), is how many Dems still seem to think we can cross the aisle and work with these people.

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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:27 PM
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5. On re-reading that, I realize it's too U.S. centric
The costs of this war that are borne by America, as massive as they are, are just one part of the puzzle.

Lest I, or we, forget the suffering we've unleashed on the Iraqi people and others caught in the crossfire.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:20 PM
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10. I remember being shocked
at how the people allowed themselves to be led to war. I felt it happening: the turning point that led us down the path to nationalism and fascism, and wondered why so many of my fellow citizens, and our leaders in Congress, didn't have the courage to refuse.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:01 PM
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3. yep, me too: adamantly opposed
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 05:02 PM by ixion
and telling everyone I knew who would listen. It was odd, though, because I couldn't really talk about it openly at work because there were too many conservatives rattling their sabers. :(

There would be plenty of posts by me here, though, that would document these feelings.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:29 PM
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6. I alienated a lot of my friends with my increasing insistence
that they help me try to raise awareness and stop the coming war.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:38 PM
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7. But they've all apologized and listen to you about political issues, now.
Right? :):(

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 05:42 PM
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8. Of course not.
Now that the dems have taken congress and keep funding the war, they tell me I'm an idiot for thinking it matters at all what we do... that it's all rigged... I try, but I get ignored or worse, laughed at.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:20 PM
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9. Thanks for fighting the good fight. n/t
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:15 AM
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11. Anyone want to share a longer narrative, a specific andecote, etc.?
For me, the Powell U.N. speech and the media reaction to it was the day the music died in this country.

Here's mine, from the http://www.dayofshame.com blog, quoting a pre-war e-mail exchange:

Here's what I found in my trip down memory lane, five questions I kept sending a Republican friend while debating the merits of the pending war:

1. In your opinion, what good evidence did Bush or Powell provide that Saddam has WMD?
2. How can one justify a pre-emptive war absent strong evidence of either a clear and present threat or a violation of UN sanctions?
3. If evidence doesn't matter, why did we urge the UN to resume the inspection regimes?
4. What justified our trumping the UN's inspection efforts (which, again, were resumed at our urging), at a substantial cost to us in international good will?
5. Why are we optimistic that regime change will be effective, given the tragic history of blowback and no U.S. good deed going unpunished in the Middle East?

The debate raged on, but he never did answer any of those questions.


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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:40 AM
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12. I was marching against it in demonstrations back in September, '02.
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 08:43 AM by Seabiscuit
carrying a "no blood for oil" sign.

The whole diversion from Osama bin Laden made me angry. I didn't believe any of the B.S. about "weapons of mass destruction". In the spring of 2002 Powell had said publicly that Saddam had been contained, posed no threat to us, and had no such weapons. When Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld started quoting large statistics about stockpiles of different types of weapons like sarin gas, I knew they were lying - how could they know anything like that when there had been no U.N. inspectors there for years (and we certainly had none)? Powell's reliance on cartoonlike cardboard pictures in his U.N. speech solidified my convictions - I remember Adlai Stevenson at the U.N. showing aerial photographs - REAL evidence - of the Russian missiles in Cuba during the Cuba Missile Crises.

I got into several arguments with fairly recent acquaintences about the runup to Iraq War and fortunately it exposed them to me as nasty, vile right-wing kool-aide drinkers, so I cut them out of my life.

I believe it was in February, 2003 that I first read on the internet about the PNAC. That was frightening. It confirmed to me that the excuses for invading Iraq were bogus, and that these megalomaniacal extremists were insane. It also got me wondering about a 9/11 LIHOP scenario.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 09:58 AM
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14. Of course, minding that your acquaintances were blinkered, bloodthirsty haters...
... makes you a shrill, extremist partisan. Or so goes the still-current narrative, eh?

Do you have a link to the 2002 Powell admission you describe? People should know about that.

Thanks,
lwcon / Vast Left

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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:08 AM
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15. I don't have a link handy to the Powell admission, but it was all over DU.
Those "acquaintances" accused me of being a "pacifist" and being "brainwashed" by the "far left media" (WTF is that? They couldn't tell me). Talk about projection! Then they started trying to discredit what I said by attacking me personally. I told them where they could stuff it and that was that.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:42 AM
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13. I watched Powell, thinking that he could be trusted and that he had real proof
I was so shocked to hear him and realize he said nothing and had no proof.

I attended a prayer vigil outside of a church with my young child the night before we started bombing Baghad.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 11:35 AM
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16. well a few times I was out on the street with a No War sign
nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:23 PM
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17. Out protesting, on DU posting as well, There were a few hawks here who
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 12:36 PM by robbedvoter
cheered the topling of the statue as if it meant something.
Most of DU was against war. I remember protests before and after it started.
Biggest one - internatinal - febr 15 - 2003 - THE WORLD SAYS NO TO WAR - NYC was tremendous. And every world capital. Bush called us "focus groups"

What I remember most from the NY protest was how downright supportive the cops were.

The January DC protest - cold as hell, air conditioned bus - freezing our butts. The rally - didn't like it so much but the march was great! The signs! The enthusiasm! The locals' support!

On the net = somewhere on yahoo, I still have an entire archive of all the lies. Those who watched the news carefully - had the clear image of the truth. Can't imagine I was more informed than the senators.

Another memory: Paul Wellstone voted/spoke against the war. His numbers went up dramatically (in his senate race). Then he died. Then his memorial was turned into a circus by the RW-ers.
Bushco also pounced on Schroeder - the German chancellor - also elected on a NO War agenda. They didn't kill him - just failed to congratulate him.
I remember the patriotardic hysteria, MSM cheering our "shock and awe". Rummy being called "sexy" by the MSM...W pumping his fist off the record before declaring war - caught on camera...The thing in Time 2002 about bush being overheard: "Fuck Saddam he's going down"
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:40 PM
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18. Thank you
I'll definitely be sending people to this thread to read these reminiscences.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:18 PM
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19. This is my archive: "Peace not war" as of August 2002 - use whatever you need
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Peace-not-war/?yguid=268253950

All relevant articles preserved in their entirety
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 03:05 PM
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20. Thanks, I just requested invitation to your yahoo group n/t
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