Tomorrow is Super-Tuesday. How close to the real vote is DU?

Wes Clark and Howard Dean supporters will have to make decisions tomorrow, but DUer's can vote in this poll, which has most of the Democratic candidates plus Nader listed.

Vote your choice.

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..if that's sad for the rest of the world or sad for us. :-D

LOL @ yourself. When 20% of DU'ers vote (in one of the many unscientific polls here) that John F. Kerry (the most liberal US Seantor--more liberal than Teddy Kennedy) is a DINO, that is a great indication that DU is out of the mainstream.

Vote for Nader, and then bitch about Bush for another 4 years, you masochistic martyrs.

ABB.

Not according to the conservative Orlando Report:

That said, there are plenty of votes to suggest that Kerry is more of a moderate and is willing to break from liberal orthodoxy, including his support for Gramm-Rudman-Hollings in the mid-1980s for deficit reduction, his vote for welfare reform and his votes for NAFTA and other free trade agreements. Given these votes the assertion that he's more liberal than Ted Kennedy does not withstand scrutiny. Kerry was a founding member of the moderate Democratic Leadership Council. (emphasis added)

http://www.orlandoreport.com/profiles/john_kerry_voting_record.htm

Hey, I love DK, but he looks like he belongs in a Lord of the Rings or Star Trek movie. :P

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Sorry, I wasn't referring to you--I was referring to the idiots with multiple accounts who are voting for that elf/Vulcan DK above.

At least DU is a liberal site, albeit a fringe liberal site in which some consider JFKerry to be a DINO. That is whack.

FreeRepublic used to be a conservative site (well, they were united in their hatred of Clinton--even though any good liberal like me will tell you that William Jefferson Clinton was not a real liberal), but freeperville is such a joke now that the conservatives there who point out Bush isn't really a conservative because of his nation building in Iraq and his $550 billion deficit and his amnesty program for illegal aliens have been banned forever.

I was hoping this site could become a ABB (united against Bush site), but too many of the disgruntled Deaniacs and DK supporters would rather be right in principle and have * in the White House for four more years (or more, since martial law will displace the constitution after the next terrorist attack on US soil). DK has half the delegates of Rev. Jogging Suit, but that won't stop the Dee Kayers from creating silly polls here and DUing (freeping--skewing) them.

Zell Miller is a DINO. Shit, he's more conservative than most actual Rethuglickers. Holy Joe was the closest thing to a DINO that the DEMS had running for prez. John Kerry is no DINO.

of skewing by DK supporters? I mean besides you don't believe that there are that many people on DU who'd like the only real alternative to the two frontrunner's policies?

That fact that DK supporters are over-represented by a factor of 100000 here with regards to their actual presence in the real world--there are many times more DK supporters here than Rev. Al supporters, however, in the real world, Rev. Al has twice (16) as many delegates than DK (8).

How many hundreds of delegates does Kerry already have, and how many more hundreds will he pick up tomorrow?

folks who used to be neck and neck for #1? Did they all go to Kerry or Edwards? Perhaps some went to DK because they still felt they wanted a candidate who was against USAPATRIOT and against the IWR - and not AL because the Reverend Al is a joke.

Well, according to the latest polls, they went to the Kerry/Edwards camps.

Neither Dean nor Clark could vote yeah or nay on the Patriot Act nor the IRW, since Dean is an ex-governor (not in Congress) and Clark in an ex-general (was never in Congress).

I am glad DK voted against the Patriot Act and against the IRW. I admire him, just as I admire Senator Wellstone.

However, DK is perhaps much more of a joke as Rev. Al, especially considering the fact that Rev. Al has twice as many delegates as DK.

Sorry, this country is full of idiots who just aren't ready for a prez who is a vegan bachelor and who looks like a Vulcan or the unlikely spawn of an elf/hobbit coupling. Politics is a cruel business. But it had to be said.

is going to Kucinich tomorrow... and will be ABB in Nov (well actually before cuz I'll work for the nominee).

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here. Look at Dennis Kucinich go! :bounce:
Not a single vote for Ralph either.
That's a good sign.

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on edut: spelling

is anyone terribly upset now? I think most people will be ABB in November-and there won't be any big Nader factor.

int kerry=-100000;
int bush=100000;
int nader=0;
int whogetsit=0;

for (i=1; i<total_votes; i++) {

if (vote == bush) {
bush++;
break;
}
if (vote == nader) {
//protect against real surprises
if (nader > bush)
bush++;
else
nader++;
break;
}
if (vote == kerry) {
if (whogetsit++ >= 5)
whogetsit = 0;

switch (whogetsit) {
case 0:
bush++;
break;
case 1:
nader++;
break;
default:
kerry++;
}
}
}

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In fact, I just played for 45 minutes straight.

I would urge them to consider voting for Dennis Kucinich tomorrow.
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name. Won't make any difference in the outcome.

DK won't even finish in the top two in his home state of Ohio.

http://www.kucinich.us/

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tomorrow, my candidate was Clark but he dropped out. I was still going to vote Clark but then decided to vote for someone who is actually still in the running. I know that Kerry will get the nomination and I will wholeheartedly support him but I'm giving my primary vote to Kucinich. :-)

Edwards running third throughout.

And what does everyone make of the 2 votes for that bogeyman, Ralph?
Sheesh.

Laughable, Pathetic, the only aspects it reflects is the DU's deep seated resentments and prejudices.:argh:

ABB.

He's a local guy for you, just like we have Russ Feingold here. Wow.
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Voting for either of them, keeps our messages in the Convention and some of the power! May help to make it a brokered convention, which gives power to us!

I worry about a vote for Clark, because he has endorsed Kerry. Does this mean that on the first ballot all those deglegates that he has, goes to Kerry? That could put Kerry over the top. Anyone know? I want it to go to at least a second ballot, where it is freefall!

and look at the Wes Clark/Howard Dean bloc.

I still can't get over how the DU hysteria about Ralph Nader is just a spectre, an illusion. LOL!

ABB.

I don't think any association of learned people can be representative of the general population... That's why this place can be a nice retreat...

I'm a Clarkie but I already voted for him here in OK so I threw my "poll" vote behind Kerry.

-Mike

I supported and sent Dean bucks, am very willing and fully supportive to who ever comes out (everybody jump on Kerry band wagon), and left my heart and vote with Dennis. This not a crime unless they them steal your vote in the process and install a *

nolabels, I'm not jaded about Clark as a candidate... I meant jaded to be in reference to the intelligence of the general population.

I'm looking at Dean more favorably in hindsight, btw. It'll be interesting to see what you guys do with your momentum.

-Mike

The smarts part did worry me when I was younger, as far as the general population goes, I think it will work out. People don't always require smarts, and sometimes I have even seen it to be a handicap, or a challenge depending on who it concerns. And besides one should never ever misunderestimate others :hurts:

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I don't care if he uses his campaign money to stay in fancy hotels, that guy really helps us out against Bush.

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Kucinich tomorrow.
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looking forward to completing my ballot tomorrow

...in CA tomorrow.

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first it would remove Nader as a third-party candidate in the fall, and second this would bring some competition into our primaries.

being anything more than a will'o'the wisp, not a player nor a factor despite all the flame threads here warning of gravest fears, blah, blah, blah...

That would be nice!

It's Super-Tuesday.