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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:15 PM
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How many times will John Edwards apologize?
IWR. The banking bill. How many times can a candidate apologize for something that was a bad decision before we have to say "You seem to be wrong a lot of the time." Is he running for office so he can erase the mistakes he made during his senate term?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:16 PM
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1. Has Obama even apologized once for missing 16% of the votes in the US Senate?
I guess it's easier to not vote and not have to apologize...

I notice he didn't apologize for voting for Cheney's Energy Buddies' 2005 Energy Policy Act.



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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:18 PM
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4. Most of that 16% was in 2007, along with Hillary's missed votes.
Gee, what could they both have been doing in 2007? :eyes:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:19 PM
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5. Getting money. That seems to be all that matters. (nt)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:29 PM
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9. I have never seen Obama admit he made a mistake with a vote
He is like Bush in that he can't admit mistakes. He is perfect, right? His supporters tell him so. He always has an "explanation."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:31 PM
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11. His stimulus program,
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 07:32 PM by redqueen
his "hyuck hyuck, nobody clued me in" schtick about the college-app question, willingness to adopt the "I never make mistakes!" attitude.

Oh, and the "uniter" stuff, too.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:17 PM
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2. Better to apologize than to claim bad decisions don't matter
We've seen too much of that strategy in the Oval Office recently.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:18 PM
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3. I'm guessing far fewer times than all y'all will apologize for backing the wrong candidate in '08
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:37 PM
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14. Oh, SNAP! lol...
I enjoyed that...thank you. :hi:
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:25 PM
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6. I'd rather a candidate who sees when he made a bad call and
then works to correct it, rather than the idiot in office now who goes full speed ahead knowing he's completely wrong. There's isn't anyone that's perfect, so I'll go for the one not bought by special interest coporatocracy. You know, it is Edwards all the way, to the DNC one way or the other. :)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:28 PM
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7. How many times will Obama admit he made a mistake? So far the answer is 0
Edwards and Hillary are adults. They can admit mistakes. Obama is like Bush. They can never admit they were wrong. There is always an "explanation" from Obama.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:28 PM
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8. evidently TWICE, according to your own post.
1. IWR
2. Banking Bill
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:30 PM
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10. my post was how many times WILL (future tense) he apologize
he HAS (past) apologized twice.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:37 PM
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15. I will gaze into my crystal ball. ciao, baby.
peace out.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:32 PM
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12. This is a perfect example of Obamite hypocrisy that comes straight from Obama
OBAMA: I feel pretty bad, I do. I feel pretty bad. But let's just respond to the example that was just thrown out.

The bill with respect to privacy for victims of sexual abuse is a bill I had actually sponsored, Hillary. I actually sponsored the bill. It got through the senate.

(APPLAUSE)

That was on the back of 12 other provisions that I was able to pass in the state legislature. Nobody has worked harder than me in the Illinois state legislature to make sure that victims of sexual abuse were dealt with, partly because I've had family members who were victims of sexual abuse and I've got two daughters who I want to protect.

What happened on that particular provision was that after I had sponsored it and helped to get it passed, it turned out that there was a legal provision in it that was problematic and needed to be fixed so that it wouldn't be struck down.

But when you comb my 4,000 votes in Illinois, choose one...

... try to present it in the worst possible light
, that does have to be answered. That does have to be answered.


Minutes later

EDWARDS: We've cast hundreds and hundreds of votes. What you're criticizing her for, by the way, you've done to us, which is you pick this vote and that vote out of the hundreds that we've cast.

(APPLAUSE)

OBAMA: No.

EDWARDS: And what -- all I'm saying is, what's fair is fair. You have every right to defend any vote. You do

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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:35 PM
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13. I don't think John wants to Erase anything, I think he wants to CORRECT his past mistakes
Everyone of the Senators have voted on bad bills. Does that mean we shouldn't vote for any of them.

What I'd like to know if some of these bills had provisions written in them AFTER the bill passed. We know the rethuglicons have done this on numerous occasions. I guess we will never know for sure.

But hey knock yourself out attacking our candidates. You make us all so proud.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:56 PM
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16. Glad you pointed this out
Honestly, I really like John Edwards. I just wanted to post something nasty to see how many people would freak out and come racing to his aid. This was an experiment.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:08 PM
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17. Interesting that you wanted to post something "nasty" as an experiment
with all the hostility being posted on DU, I guess this should come as no surprise. However, I really don't see the point to it.:shrug:



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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:12 PM
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18. I admire people who can admit their mistakes. It takes a big man and a good person to do that.
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 08:13 PM by in_cog_ni_to
It's more than Hillary has done. He has seen the damage caused by the IWR vote and the Bankruptcy Bill vote as is willing to admit he was WRONG. What's wrong with that?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:27 PM
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19. It does take courage to admit you're wrong
Like I said, having to apologize for a lot of things indicates that you have made a lot of bad decisions.
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